Originally Posted by juniorarcherdb

Why would it be inconsistent? The springs would contract the same each time unless your poundage changes. And the bow jump would be good as it would generate more speed as-well as a clean straight release.

Thought about this about a year ago myself.

Originally Posted by juniorarcherdb

Any more comments/ questions, feel free to ask.

What were your marks like for Physics in school?

Fivics have a spring loaded grip on their new riser .....

The link to that youtube vid was on this thread about 7 posts previous

Originally Posted by buzz lite beer

The link to that youtube vid was on this thread about 7 posts previous

I did a quick scan through first but wasn't really looking for an non embedded link.

Just been on youtube,archery tv,fivics.A riser with the very thing you are talking about.Don't know how to put a link on,or I would have.

Harry, there's a video of it about 2 posts before yours and again on the previous page of the thread. Dunno if it's the same one but hey.

Like the idea.
It appears the spring is quite light and probably adds nothing to the power. I suspect it's there mainly to isolate the grip from the riser. Good for beginners who are likely to pinch the grip on release rather than let the bow jump out of their hands. Whether that helps them with their technique or not is questionable.

Can't see it being taken up by top bow designers or by elite archers. They have better technique and many of them pad and tape up their grips anyway. But you never know.

It strikes me that accommodating a beginner's poor technique is a pretty sure-fire way to make it stick. If it is for that it sounds like it could be a bad idea.

He's an official promo for it, but I'm not sure what they're trying to say with the pictures ....

Is no-one else thinking that even the possibility of something going wrong/ changing with the only part of the bow you should have significant contact during the shot a really *really* horrible idea? Or is it just me?

Hi Mistake,it is some time since I involved myself on this thread.

the only part of the bow you should have significant contact during the shot

If I pull out that comment. The grip is part that we contact, as you say. However, what is the nature of that contact and what can go wrong?
I am not defending the grip; not am I for or against it; just exploring your feelings about it.
My grip suits me, because I have spent ages shaping it so that I can feel if my hand moves off station. I can feel if I change the pressure point up or down, or left /right.It supports my hand in a position that I believe to be a good one for archery.
If I put mine on springs, I guess that at full draw, it would feel exactly the same, as the contact should not have changed.
What do you feel might go wrong and at what stage?

Geoff - I think simply that if the grip is bolted in place and can't move, the grip is always in the exact same position relative to the rest of the bow and as a result, so is your hand (if you're consistent with the front hand, that is). Allow the grip to move and there will be an inherent inconsistency. It may only be tiny, but it'll be there (if it wasn't, the grip would be unable to move).


From the pictures DarkMuppet posted, the riser jumps forwards where most risers take a more downward path. however, I honestly can't see what benefit that brings as we know beyond all possible doubt that the riser doesn't leave the hand until the arrow has gone. There's no forward movement at all. (EDIT - or rather, the only forward movement comes from the forward pressure in the hand - not from the riser "jump" which comes later.)
As such, this jumping/sprung grip can only achieve two things.
1> Take a solid, immobile grip and introduce inherent inconsistency to it (as I described above).
2> Change the behaviour of the bow after the shot (in terms of the arrow being influenced by the bow) is complete and nothing whatsoever about the archer or bow can influence arrow flight.

So in essence, a huge potential for problems with no gain at all.

If the grip stays at the compressed position until the arrow leaves the string, no change from any other grip up to that point.
As you say, no benefits so far.
I feel it is possible to make the grip in such a way that the position will repeat at the compressed position; so no serious drawback either.
It just seems like an expensive way to fit a grip to a riser.It should have a lock down feature so the user can compare back to back and see if there are benefits.
In some ways, a rigid button could be said to add errors that a fixed one would not.heehee