Discuss International limb fitting ?? at the Recurve Bow within Archery Interchange UK Forums; Hi there, re tight limbs, my son has an Eclipse (RH) his limbs have been ...
Hi there, re tight limbs, my son has an Eclipse (RH) his limbs have been fine since day 1, when his sister got her Eclipse (LH) At first it took two people to remove her limbs from riser, asked a shop in Guisborough if this was a known problem, sprayed the riser once with a little wd40 and since then they have been fine, I have'nt had a problem with limbs in my W&W winact at all I put it down to tolerances in the actual limbs. Regards John
I remember that well John!!! Every Spig Revo I've seen, the limbs of whatever make are a tight fit. The bolts are a bit larger diameter than other risers. All I do is sand the edge of the limb cut out with a piece of fine emery, it works fine and is not detrimental to the limb
Thanks everyone (thanks Al - a few golds very welcome last Sunday)
It is in interesting point about where the limb tightness seems to be. For anyone who know the Spig revolution it can only be the d shaped groove or the limb bolt (as there's no pocket as such!). I actually thought it was the d pocket which is why I posted the question - but I admit I hadn't looked very closely at the limb bolt. Will go have another look.
This matter is a point of concern for me too as I'm just about to upgrade my limbs and was considering jumping from Hoyt to Win & Win. I might have more luck with spin the bottle.
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Is there a method of backing this up with real data or is it just conjecture?
Originally Posted by Old Bloke
I'm highly disinclined to believe this statement.
Not so sure about loose limb pockets loosing points. I have no limb pockets at all on my Revolution.
just point,pull & squeeze the trigger
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International Limb fit
Yet another story of bad fitting limbs;
I have a sf pro carbon riser (buy the best you can afford) and winstorm limbs.
The bottom limb when strung rocks from left to right.
So took the bow apart.
D slots in limbs top 9.5mm, bottom 9.75mm.
Location pins in the riser 9.4mm top & bottom.
When I phoned the supplier they told me this was acceptable!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
So how do you adjust the string centre?
Everything you build the bow it sounds like!
What are the standards if any?
There are no standards, the fitting is a copy of Hoyts bow fitting with each manufactor making their own version and I guess allowing a little extra clearance so their bows/limbs fit every one elses
Originally Posted by nairepooc
Best wishes, Mark
Heck forget variations between manufacturers, I have seen variations in the limbs from the same company. The cut away section at the end of the limb was a different size meaning one set would fit on a bow without issue but another set wouldn't.
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Lets be realistic here...you have bought a riser from the higher end of the scale, and limbs from the bottom end.
Originally Posted by nairepooc
The winstorm limbs are priced at their current level for a reason...think about it. Plus were talking 1/4mm difference - how tight do you expect the tollerance to be??? and how much of a difference will it make???
It would be interesting to check the same measurements on some of the top limbs available - maybe Border could comment???
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As a begineer on a fairly tight budget I put my cash into the riser. From suppliers that I have spoken with they tell me that it would not matter the price of the limb because the standard is not inforced.
Why does it matter!
Well from what I have been shown, read and watched a 0.3mm play in the limb will be magnified x10 on then end of the limb.Making 3mm movement now if your happy with 3mm of play then fine, but I am not!
When setting up the bow and setting the string through the true centre, how can this be achieved if the bottom limb end can move 3mm!
That means setting the bow up every time you come to use it. But what happens after the shot! The string would move again.
If I have to buy more expensive limbs then I will, but..............Where would it end.
Custom made limbs maybe?
The idea is that when the bow is strung, the two compenents sit in the radii of each other at both locations, this means that the pressure of the strung bow will keep everything seated. The problem is there are no standards, so there is no benchmark on how far wrong any one item can be.
Ive never understood the reason on getting a expensive riser and cheap limbs..
For example its the limbs that punt the arrow, and our limbs on a cheap riser will out perform a expensive riser with cheap limbs. (and its performance your after)
The next question is... how long will it take you to build up to a skill and muscle tone that warrants a full expensive bow... and when you get there, you will probably want the latest colours and latest geometry.
Thats off topic anyhow...
What part has the difference in it... is it the limb or the riser?
And do you get this slop when the bow is strung?
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That is my main concern. When the bow is strung, you can move the bottom limb from side to side!!!
That has got to be wrong?
So that is going to put the tip of the limb out, I think?
By my estimation I have 0.3mm clearance between the D cut out on the limb and the diameter of the location pin in the riser. So that give 3mm of limb tip movement with the bow strung!
I am returning to the supplier on Friday as he says this is not possible?
I know it is.
I want to try other limbs in the riser both the same make and more expensive.
I will buy the SF Foam Carbon limbs if I have to.
The argument for novice archers starting with a decent riser and cheap limbs is pretty solid.
Firstly, it means they can start out with a low draw weight and work upwards using cheap limbs until they achieve their desire poundage, keeping their costs relatively low as they go. When they hit target weight, they can treat themselves to a good set of limbs without having to worry about upgrading their riser too.
Secondly, it can satisfy the New Toy urge without wasting money on unsuitable kit
Back on topic: While there is no published standard, you certainly have a right to expect the riser and limbs to fit together. After all, you bought them together. Talk of "acceptable tolerances" is nonsense. If the limb moves when the bow is strung, you have a right to swap them.
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im playing catch up here, so forgive me asking a few dumb questions...
Is the limb adjustment feature moving, or the limb in the adjustment moving... for example, are the locking screws holding the bolt or dovetail down tight.
(im not sure if this riser has its lateral adjustment on the bolt or a movable dovetail/limb pocket)