Riser Next riser to go for

nbuuifx

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I've been on the hunt for a decent set of carbon limbs, but I had it mentioned to me that I might want to upgrade my riser too.

I've only got an intermediate riser at the moment (Hoyt Horizon 25"), I hadn't really put much thought or consideration into the riser.

I would be after 2nd hand as the new risers at this level would be out of my budget.

A couple of upgrades that were recommended were:

Win & Win Winact
Hoyt GMX

What I'm struggling to find out is which risers are still good now (Some risers were excellent in their day but seem to be dated now, so didn't want to get one that *was* good once upon a time)

I probably will need to go for something that is out of production though.

I'd like to give a budget of ?200 maybe stretching to ?250 for something that will be perfect and last many years!

Any thoughts?
 

nbuuifx

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I did a full bow tune a few weeks ago, during a shoot recently my arrows all started to go left. I assumed it was me but it turned out the top limb had moved. It wasn't much but a correction to straighten it up fixed the shooting. It was at this point it was suggested that a better riser would be more of a 'set and forget' item, rather than having to continuously adjust to keep things right.

There was some mention of an 'open platform pocket system' but that was over my head!


Having just watched a GMX end on ebay, even second hand they may be a bit out of my price range. The one I was watching went for ?310.

The winact seems to be more in my price range.


So what would a better riser like these give me over the Horizon?
 

geoffretired

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I did a full bow tune a few weeks ago, during a shoot recently my arrows all started to go left. I assumed it was me but it turned out the top limb had moved.
I would guess that it would take very little in the way of "packing " to keep the top limb in its proper place.
 

mbaker74

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At the end of the day, the riser is just a "handle" which you attach bits too. For me, they have to be straight, have a grip that fits you roughly and you can modify to be perfect, and the limb alignment needs to be adjustable but stay put once you have adjusted it. Your Horizon uses twin grub screws either side of he block to lock it in position, so if its adjusted correctly I would doubt it will move on its own. I would guess its more likely that you have some lower quality limbs which have either bent or would supplied warped.

Personally I would save your money and just get some new, straight limbs, align them and just check every few weeks. If you are set on a new riser, you wont go wrong with any of the "old" top of the line risers. Nothing really changes in "new" risers apart from colours and the sales bumph.... There is not really a lot of new tech to go into them, apart from maybe carbon, unlike limbs....

The GMX is still a very good riser, a good proportion of the Korean team shoots GMX's still.... They will never be cheap.....
 

Mark31121

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I did a full bow tune a few weeks ago, during a shoot recently my arrows all started to go left. I assumed it was me but it turned out the top limb had moved. It wasn't much but a correction to straighten it up fixed the shooting. It was at this point it was suggested that a better riser would be more of a 'set and forget' item, rather than having to continuously adjust to keep things right.

There was some mention of an 'open platform pocket system' but that was over my head!


Having just watched a GMX end on ebay, even second hand they may be a bit out of my price range. The one I was watching went for ?310.

The winact seems to be more in my price range.


So what would a better riser like these give me over the Horizon?
I had a top end riser do that - if you're concerned then spend ?2.50 on some decent thread lock, far better than ?250 on a riser that you really don't need.

Someone in my club has just "downgraded" their CXT to an intermediate Hoyt and he's far happier (apart from forgetting to take his sight block off when he sold it so had to buy another!)
 

nbuuifx

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At the end of the day, the riser is just a "handle" which you attach bits too. For me, they have to be straight, have a grip that fits you roughly and you can modify to be perfect, and the limb alignment needs to be adjustable but stay put once you have adjusted it. Your Horizon uses twin grub screws either side of he block to lock it in position, so if its adjusted correctly I would doubt it will move on its own. I would guess its more likely that you have some lower quality limbs which have either bent or would supplied warped.

Personally I would save your money and just get some new, straight limbs, align them and just check every few weeks. If you are set on a new riser, you wont go wrong with any of the "old" top of the line risers. Nothing really changes in "new" risers apart from colours and the sales bumph.... There is not really a lot of new tech to go into them, apart from maybe carbon, unlike limbs....

The GMX is still a very good riser, a good proportion of the Korean team shoots GMX's still.... They will never be cheap.....

You are correct, the horizon uses twin grub screws which you would think would do a good job, however this is the second time it has moved. I think the outer grub screw vibrates loose then the inner one follows.

The current limbs are SF Elite Fibre Foam, not the best but not the worst. They look straight to me. The limb had definitely moved, you could feel that the limb protruded past the riser on one side and was set in on the other. It wasn't a huge amount but enough to make a difference at 50m.

I'm after a set of carbon limbs. I'm happy to stick with the horizon if it should do the job, maybe as the poster above says a squirt of thread lock on the grub screws would be enough.
 

Rog600

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A turn of PTFE tape will do the job.

If you're still fancying something new, the SF line of risers are now rebranded so there might be a deal on a forged+ somewhere; plenty of excellent scores put in with these at clubs and tournaments. Plenty around secondhand.

I'd find a plumber's van this morning and cadge one of the rolls of PTFE tape he'll have rolling around in every tool bag, fittings box, glove compartment etc, from him, thus saving another 5p towards your new limbs 😀
 

mbaker74

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You are correct, the horizon uses twin grub screws which you would think would do a good job, however this is the second time it has moved. I think the outer grub screw vibrates loose then the inner one follows.

The current limbs are SF Elite Fibre Foam, not the best but not the worst. They look straight to me. The limb had definitely moved, you could feel that the limb protruded past the riser on one side and was set in on the other. It wasn't a huge amount but enough to make a difference at 50m.
Fair enough, I am amazed they have moved actually, the only Horizon I have adjusted for someone, the grub screws were as tight as anything, and have not moved at all in the 2 years since I did change it. I think some threadlock on he outer grubs would be the perfect choice.

I'm after a set of carbon limbs. I'm happy to stick with the horizon if it should do the job, maybe as the poster above says a squirt of thread lock on the grub screws would be enough.
If your after new limbs, a lot of places have the old SF carbon foam limbs on special offer as they have been rebranded, as stated above. I would also look at the Mybo Synergy carbon limbs, a couplf of guys shoot them at our club and they look and feel very good for the price, perform well too.
 

bolerus

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your money, your choice. but you will get far more for your money by getting better limbs, and as somebody says if you are getting some movement in the limb pocket, set it, make sure it is all as tight as possible, and if somethign does come loose, thread lock it. The irony is, you may well find that better limbs would stop the problem ( it is likely to be vibration rocking the screw loose)
 
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