Discuss Camless lever bows - cables / strings. at the Compound Bow within Archery Interchange Forums; Hi.
I am still out for one of these bows from Monster Bows - I ...
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Camless lever bows - cables / strings.
I am still out for one of these bows from Monster Bows - I like the Phoenix a lot. But I am waiting for an approximate price for making such a bow, with a wooden riser and wooden limbs - Monster Bows are very interested in such a project and they are working on it to see what the price level would be.
But I still have one main concern with these bows - the shoot through cables. I think they would touch the bow arm all the time - especially if you try to make the correct form, where you get the line of the string as close as possible to the bow arm (from this Australian article about biomechanics). But on the other hand, if it was made so the cables crosses from on side to another, as they go from powerlimb to outback limb, then they would probably be in the way for the arrow. And then also one would have 4 cables crossing each other...
Another thing: Are the cables sliding against each other? I see nothing that keeps the crossing cables apart. And they doesn't seem to have any serving at this point.
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The cables do cross and touch each other - however I have shot mine for over a year now with no sign of wear at all
Monster 7.0-Victory V3's-Finger Release
It isn't difficult to put in spacers that just widen one set of cables so they don't rub.By the same thinking, it should be possible to reduce the space so that they miss the bow arm too.Arrow clearance will then be reduced.
I had my shoot through cables well enough apart that I could shoot with my bow arm between them. No arrow clearance problems then.It looked odd, but so did the Oneida when it first came out. In fact, they look odd now when you see one for the first time. Still, "looks", isn't what puts arrows in the middle.
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Maybe the cables doesn't move much at the point where they cross, so maybe it's not a big issue that they touch each other. Cable spacers will add friction (maybe?).
Cable guards, as on compound bows could be added to force the cables at the side nearest the bowarm into the center line (or over if you want a true centershot arrow). But that would apply some other forces to the limbs that may or may not be an issue.
Bowarm through cables as you have done on your convertion, Geoffretired - I don't think that would be a good idea either in the long run. Then you would need a arm guard at both sides of the arm... lol
Maybe the position of the cables is not really a big deal - people do shoot these bows after all. But can they hold the bow in the biomechanical correct way? Or do they have to bend the bow arm? I am really not sure, because I have never had such a bow in my hands. Especially when I look at below picture, it makes me thinking.
The one I converted was a standard Black eagle which has a riser that placed the cables very close to the bow hand(too far forward) Monster have different risers to avoid that sort of positioning, they cross closer to the elbow. However, I cannot say that the cables will, or will not contact the bow arm.
Some archers have cable contact on their bow and another archer using the same model, doesn't.
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I found with the Dragon (in the very limited time I owned one) that there was some contact with the bow arm (while aiming and after the shot). I came from (and went back too) a Hoyt, so no shoot through cables.
I could not shoot with a straight bow arm, it had to have a slight bend.
Cable wear there was none, due to not touching at the cross over.
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