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    clothyard shaft

    Hello All

    At the risk of sounding dumb how long was a clothyard shaft?
    I assumed it to be 36 inches until I recently read Horace Ford's book. He claimed it to be 27 inches?
    I have had a look on line and found varying measurements for a clothyard, 27, 36 and 37 inches?
    The only reference I could find to an existing war arrow was 27 inches in length, this kind of puts pay to the war archer drawing his bow back to his ear?
    Are there other ancient arrows in existence longer than 27 inches?






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    I understood a clothyard to be over 36" as it includes the selvedge,the bit on the edge of the woven cloth that stops it from unravelling.

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    I thought a clothyard went from your thumb - held up like an OK - to your nose. I guess if you were selling by the clothyard you wouldn't be overly generous
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    I seem to remember seeing drapers measuring out cloth as you describe Muriel.
    I guess short drapers sold short measure that way.
    The selvedge that I mentioned would be on the long edges of the cloth, so a piece of cloth on a roll one yard WIDE would have an extra width down both edges. The width would not vary according to the size of the person's arms in the same way, it would be already made 1 yard+ across, I suppose.

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    Quote Originally Posted by geoffretired View Post
    I seem to remember seeing drapers measuring out cloth as you describe Muriel.
    I guess short drapers sold short measure that way.
    The selvedge that I mentioned would be on the long edges of the cloth, so a piece of cloth on a roll one yard WIDE would have an extra width down both edges. The width would not vary according to the size of the person's arms in the same way, it would be already made 1 yard+ across, I suppose.
    Well you must be really old then Geoff as there was a Weights and Measures Act passed in 1878 and a Yard was defined in law in 1305 so I guess legally cloth had to be measured acurately when sold and not by using a "rule of thumb" since way back. Today cloth comes in several widths and not usally as narrow as 36" as that's not an optimum size for reducing the waste when cutting for clothing. On a home scale cloth is folded in half along its length so that both sides of a garment are cut at once and the pile and pattern complement each other; I don't know how they layer it up for mass production.
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    Heehee!
    So the tailors have rolls of cloth for suits, but are they folded as they seem quite narrow when still rolled up?
    I wonder if I have a bit of confusion mixed up with the selvedge and yard. Could the yardstick I metioned earlier have been longer than a yard so that a cloth with a selvedge could be measured with the yardstick which had built in allowance for the selvedge .Meaning the buyer would get a yard of useable cloth.




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