Proper outdoors shooting

Kernowlad

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We've been shooting outside for a little while now and scored a Long Warwick last week but with heavy aluminium arrows, 80 yards involved aiming very high and slightly guessing. Only one miss but still pretty vague.

So got some ACGs and immediately felt far better; still had at least two ends per distance (Long National) of sighting in as it was totally different with the new arrows but now 80 yards was well within sight range.

So was well chuffed to get three 9s and three 7s at 80 yards and four 9s and two 7s at 60 yards.

Ended up with 440 which should improve a lot more now I know what sight marks to use!

That and a 543 on an indoor Portsmouth and things are going the right way.

At some stage a longer bow and a more precise release will probably help but for now, pretty pleased.

My son (8) is also doing really well and got a decent score on a junior short Warwick.
 

Kernowlad

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Sounds like proper outdoors shooting to me. What is the reason for wanting a longer bow?
Mine is quite short (28" ATA) and so quite unstable; I can feel the wobble as I aim. Plus it's probably a cliche but that "back wall" is quite spongey.
It could well be Emperors New Clothes syndrome of just wanting more toys (!) but I do think a longer ATA and more positive back wall would help make things more precise and consistent now I know my draw weight and exact draw length. Spending doesn't always solve things (it rarely does!) but in this case the ACGs were money well spent.

I've looked at the Mybo Origin, Hoyt Defiant, various PSEs and even little known "Obsession" bows. TBH I should probably hang on until I hit the one year mark (been 5 months since starting) but we shall see!
 

geoffretired

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Ahhh 28" ....
One of the things about a slightly soggy back wall, is that you can feel the last stage of the draw increasing the draw length. It's a bit like a recurve archer pulling past the clicker to finish the shot. "Knowing" it is happening is not the same as thinking it is.
It is possible to watch some compounders reaching full draw on the stops then just before the release the cams roll forwards as they let off tension and creep forwards. They think they are still on the stops but they are not. If there is movement happening at that stage it is possible to know you are increasing the draw length ... takes out the guesswork. I know there are pros and cons; it is possible to make some things work in our favour.
 

jerryRTD

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Mine is quite short (28" ATA) and so quite unstable; I can feel the wobble as I aim. Plus it's probably a cliche but that "back wall" is quite spongey.
It could well be Emperors New Clothes syndrome of just wanting more toys (!) but I do think a longer ATA and more positive back wall would help make things more precise and consistent now I know my draw weight and exact draw length. Spending doesn't always solve things (it rarely does!) but in this case the ACGs were money well spent.

I've looked at the Mybo Origin, Hoyt Defiant, various PSEs and even little known "Obsession" bows. TBH I should probably hang on until I hit the one year mark (been 5 months since starting) but we shall see!
Mybo Origin on Ebay at the moment for ?470 with zero bids But I bet you've seen it already?
 

Kernowlad

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I think the seller is asking too much. Not sure on the age but it looks like an older model. ?400 or less and I'd be keener but that's a bit much IMO.
If it gets re-listed cheaper I might take another look.
 

Kernowlad

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Re-listed at the same price...
Someone hasn't quite grasped supply, demand and how to price things that don't sell...
 

dgmultimedia

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eBay is the wrong place to get a good price for quality kit - there has only been one release of the Origin bow (2015 Dec) and list price is ?795.
eBay is an auction site offer what you are prepared to pay and no more - you might be very lucky - it's a fabulous bow - I have one but not yet ready to upgrade to their new one ( not released yet)


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Kernowlad

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Good to hear.
I'd sooner buy new (I really like green or blue too) and have it set up for me.

I'll keep mulling and researching.
 

Kernowlad

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First Selby (3 dozen @ 50m and 3 dozen @ 30m) tonight in VILE wet weather - lost three vanes, could barely see through my sight which also kept coming loose but come out with 599.
Not sure if that's vaguely passable but looking at the scoresheet, I'm pretty happy with that - a few errors (a vane flew off mid flight causing a 4, I shot one with my sight pointing downwards as it slipped so got a 1!) hurt it but not too bad.
 

Kernowlad

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We had a proper tournament today - shot a Hereford with a load of other compound shooters who were rather good.
Thought I did fairly well (a 6 gold at 60 yards and a few at 50) but it made me realise the level needed to be properly competitive - got 1101 and wasn't even a contender.
And shooting that many arrows hurt and was a proper endurance test - enjoyed it for sure but much work is needed to be properly competitive. I think my wrist release has stretched too in the super wet shoot we did on Wednesday as my anchor point was suddenly much further back which didn't help.

On the upside, my son did well and got a medal.

So lessons learned - it's quite a marathon, it's very sociable but I need to up my game.
 

Corax67

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That first competition or long round can be a real eye opener as well as physically draining - don't be daunted by the other archers, especially as you've not really been doing the sport that long, but rather learn from the experience & when you set yourself improvement goals try to make them small & achievable so as not to become discouraged.

Good news about your boy though - congratulations to him



Karl
 

Kernowlad

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I probably set expectations a bit high but I came 6th. Out of 6.
Not used to coming last at anything. Usually top 10% at least for events I do (surfing, running, triathlons!).

Oh well, need to sort the annoying shift in anchor point (I think my release stretched; suddenly my anchor point was behind my neck); considering a thumb trigger release.
 

Corax67

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That's how I came into the sport and due to initial luck or good fortune I advanced very rapidly before a massive attack of the doldrums knocked me for six.

Now I have a very different outlook, each week is still a competition but it's a competition with myself rather than my fellow archers - as long as my scores are creeping up bit by bit I am happy and on each league match I endeavour to increase my PB.

Take last weekend as a learning experience and as a benchmark for future improvement - excellent idea having a good look at your release in case it was mechanical failure which did you in.


I am using two different Carter 4 finger trigger releases (on loan with the bow) to see which I get on with better but at the moment I think both are equally effective. This type of release feels solid in crook of my fingers which is reassuring and inspires confidence, makes the draw simplicity itself on a short ATA 50# bow plus the trigger is set on a hair which I just love - keep my thumb under the big knurled block until ready then a gentle pressure & off goes the shot :)



Karl
 
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