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    Bow hunting illegal why ?

    Being new to the lifestyle of archery i was wondering when and why bow hunting in the UK became illegal.

    If you can hunt with a gun in this country why not a Bow ?

    I sit on the fence when it comes to hunting im just interested in why its not possible.

    Thanks in advance.






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    to stop hordes of gnas members flocking to sherwood forest to hunt the king's ... errr .... queen's deer of course!
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    We dont have the large areas of wilderness that exist in the USA that you can hunt in with safety.
    Hunting requires far different skills that a target archer will not have,not knowing the correct arrow shot for a clean kill being one.
    Hunting in the US for many is a way of life and skills are handed down from father to son.
    Over here you could end up with unskilled archers with underpowered bows creating all sorts of carnage.
    It is best that it remains illegal in the UK.
    But long may it thrive in the US.
    Why?because its what keeps Hoyt and Bowtech etc in business,you dont think they make a fortune from target archery do you?
    Its hunters who keep the industry going.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nightimer View Post
    We dont have the large areas of wilderness that exist in the USA that you can hunt in with safety.
    Hunting requires far different skills that a target archer will not have,not knowing the correct arrow shot for a clean kill being one.
    Hunting in the US for many is a way of life and skills are handed down from father to son.
    Over here you could end up with unskilled archers with underpowered bows creating all sorts of carnage.
    It is best that it remains illegal in the UK.
    All good reasons for maintaining the ban, but anyone got any sources of when and why the ban came into effect?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Riceburner View Post
    All good reasons for maintaining the ban, but anyone got any sources of when and why the ban came into effect?
    The bit of info that I could dig up says it was in 1963.
    It was a political decision to save any undue suffering to animals for obvious reasons (unskilled bowhunters).

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    The original legislation that outlawed bowhunting was in 1963. Permitted killing methods were listed, and archery equipment was not in the list. So bowhunting was outlawed by implication.

    The Wildlife and Countryside Act 1981 pulled this together with various other bits of legislation, and explicitly outlawed the use of archery equipment.

    The bit to look at is section 11:

    http://www.statutelaw.gov.uk/content...filesize=30831

    The legislation says that no bow or crossbow may be used, but doesn't actually say no arrow may be used! So you could argue in court that it only outlaws conking the animals on the head with a bow, not shooting them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nightimer View Post
    Over here you could end up with unskilled archers with underpowered bows creating all sorts of carnage.
    As opposed to North America where you have unskilled archers with OVERpowered bows creating all sorts of carnage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stash View Post
    As opposed to North America where you have unskilled archers with OVERpowered bows creating all sorts of carnage.
    Like this guy . . . . [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xDrT9tgk4wM[/ame]
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    nah, hunters like those are fine... chance of hitting anything, including trees, rocks, planet earth are highly remote. It's those that are actually just good enough to get a shot off but not good enough to kill that are the problem.
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    Have a good trawl through you tube and you'll find many reasons why hunting with bows is illegal here.

    Hunting requires skills honed through many, many, hours of practise and study of the quarry. Skills that 90% of U.S. hunters do not possess.
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    Bow hunting is for fools!

    To kill an animal for food might be seen as ok
    But to kill just for the sake of it! To murder and call it a sport, some people realy have thier heads on backwards. Don't get me wrong I love my archery, I would never be with out it, but going out to murder an animal that will suffer a very painfull death is not what I call sport

    see you all out on the target feild
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    I too don't understand that bowhunting is illegal. Bowhunting is sort of more human than shooting with a shotgun or rifle. Done correct the animal won't feel that it has been shot. And shortly after, it will fall to the ground.

    I believe that in Denmark we have the best bowhunting rules, that also USA bowhunters should have - what some serious USA bowhunters do agree with.

    In Denmark, bowhunting is basically illegal too. But you can get a permission to go bowhunting anyway. It requires quite a few things though:
    - First you need to have the normal hunting license, that you get via a course, where you learn everything about hunting, animals, safety etc. The normal hunting license is given if you pass a theoretical and a practical exam. You can't go to the practical exam if you don't pass the theoretical part.
    - If you have got the normal hunting license and if you have paid for it you can get permission to hunt with bow. To get this permission you have to:
    - Go through a bowhunting course.
    - Pass a theoretical exam, with 20 questions. Max. 2 mistakes allowed.
    - If you pass the theoretical exam, you can go to the practical exam.
    - In the practical exam you have 6 shots at unknown distances up to 25 m and 5 of the 6 must hit in the vitals of a animal target face. Also safety in handling the bow is looked at.
    The license is valid for 5 years and then you have to pass a new practical exam to keep it. If you wish to change type of bow (for example from compoundbow to recurve) within the 5 years, you have to go to a new practical exam with that bow.
    Furthermore there are rules to the bowhunting equipment:
    - The arrow must weight min. 25 gram.
    - The bow must be powerful enough (shoot the arrow fast enough) to deliver a kinetic energy of min. 40 joule.
    - and perhaps a few other rules that I don't remember at the moment.

    For some reason, crossbow is forbidden in Denmark (you need weapons license to own one) and is totally forbidden for hunting. This is difficult to understand since the energy a crossbow delivers is typically from 100 to a little over 200 joule. So it is very effective and accurate, shot like a rifle. If I should suggest something, it should be possible to get permission to hunt with crossbow as well, under these regulations: You need first a bowhunting license and then you need to pass a special crossbowhunting course and exam, with the same or stricter demands for passing, as the bowhunting exam.

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    Quote Originally Posted by roytherecurve View Post
    Have a good trawl through you tube and you'll find many reasons why hunting with bows is illegal here.

    Hunting requires skills honed through many, many, hours of practise and study of the quarry. Skills that 90% of U.S. hunters do not possess.
    Sitting in your landrover with your mate, driving round the farms with a lamp on the roof, gun hanging out the window looking for foxes isnt many hours of practice, Isnt a honed skill...

    Sitting with a bipod on your rimfire 0.22, flask of coffee and chatting to your mate over the bonet of said landrover waiting on the rabbits comeing out isnt skillfull either.

    Can you tell me how many local hunters have a deer stalker cert?
    used to be a 5 quid post office bit of paper made you "ready to hunt"
    Hell my granny could get one!

    There are Bowhunters here in the UK that support/ fund/ promote, educated informed habitat conservation, shot selection, and animal reteival. as well as ethical animal control. So i think before you start making snide comments about the ethics or the actual application of bowhunting i suggest that anyone interested in this area of shooting sign up to IBEF course to find out what is being taught, current thinking, and aptitude of the people that are hunters.
    A IBEF course will show you what your talking about and allow your to expore the reasons why your for or against bowhunting.


    Only once educted, in what bowhunting involves can you comment in my opinion.
    For those that have been on a bowhunting course and have decided against bowhunting then i will agree that their opinion carries a ton more kudos.

    As for the 90% of US bowhunters dont possess. I think 90% of US hunters have A bucket load more knowledge/respect for their wildlife than we have for ours.
    So that sweeping statement is very very unfair.

    Do you know what the laws are in Canada for hunting in terms of what your allowed to take and the costs?
    Do you know what the eductation requirement is for Bowhunters in Denmark. is?
    I beleave that there is 11% of all monies in the US, generated in shooting sports is ringfenced for animal conservation. and Comptons, Denton Hill, and AMO shows have over 6000 archers though thier doors for archery alone.
    As for archery being used in confined spaces. It is the perfect hunting method as the overshot risks are reduced to max 100 yards in the worst case scenario. Cant say that for a gun...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thorvald View Post
    I too don't understand that bowhunting is illegal. Bowhunting is sort of more human than shooting with a shotgun or rifle. Done correct the animal won't feel that it has been shot. And shortly after, it will fall to the ground.

    I believe that in Denmark we have the best bowhunting rules, that also USA bowhunters should have - what some serious USA bowhunters do agree with.

    In Denmark, bowhunting is basically illegal too. But you can get a permission to go bowhunting anyway. It requires quite a few things though:
    - First you need to have the normal hunting license, that you get via a course, where you learn everything about hunting, animals, safety etc. The normal hunting license is given if you pass a theoretical and a practical exam. You can't go to the practical exam if you don't pass the theoretical part.
    - If you have got the normal hunting license and if you have paid for it you can get permission to hunt with bow. To get this permission you have to:
    - Go through a bowhunting course.
    - Pass a theoretical exam, with 20 questions. Max. 2 mistakes allowed.
    - If you pass the theoretical exam, you can go to the practical exam.
    - In the practical exam you have 6 shots at unknown distances up to 25 m and 5 of the 6 must hit in the vitals of a animal target face. Also safety in handling the bow is looked at.
    The license is valid for 5 years and then you have to pass a new practical exam to keep it. If you wish to change type of bow (for example from compoundbow to recurve) within the 5 years, you have to go to a new practical exam with that bow.
    Furthermore there are rules to the bowhunting equipment:
    - The arrow must weight min. 25 gram.
    - The bow must be powerful enough (shoot the arrow fast enough) to deliver a kinetic energy of min. 40 joule.
    - and perhaps a few other rules that I don't remember at the moment.

    For some reason, crossbow is forbidden in Denmark (you need weapons license to own one) and is totally forbidden for hunting. This is difficult to understand since the energy a crossbow delivers is typically from 100 to a little over 200 joule. So it is very effective and accurate, shot like a rifle. If I should suggest something, it should be possible to get permission to hunt with crossbow as well, under these regulations: You need first a bowhunting license and then you need to pass a special crossbowhunting course and exam, with the same or stricter demands for passing, as the bowhunting exam.
    Thanks for your information... Sound like Denmark has listened to the informed.
    Crossbows are VERY different to bows. and should be treated differently. (i didnt say banned, but treated with a different kind of respect)

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    I agree that crossbows are a different type of bow and that it is ok, they are threated differently than bows. But I also agree that they didn't have to be banned as much as they are in Denmark.



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