Do your FMJ's make it out to 90m? or is that a bit of a shove to get them there?Personally I have a set of fmj's for when shoots are on straw.
if they are hard enough to stop arrows, they tend to be difficult to pull from, and run a risk of breakages.Forgive me for being an idiot, but, what's wrong with straw bosses
my Axis fmj's don't, but my old set of Navigator fmj's did, and I've since replaced them with a set of Easton Deep 6 fmj's (from the hunting catalogue) that also have no problem reaching 90m.Do your FMJ's make it out to 90m? or is that a bit of a shove to get them there?
they tend to be much harder targets, and they wear carbon arrows a lot more than shooting into foam. As Gtek says, why shoot 21st Century arrows into 14th Century targets? Especially the Italian straw bosses... I had one club mate who retired from our county champs one year after snapping 4 of a brand new set of ACC's!Forgive me for being an idiot, but, what's wrong with straw bosses
We tend to double boss and not use A framesmy Axis fmj's don't, but my old set of Navigator fmj's did, and I've since replaced them with a set of Easton Deep 6 fmj's (from the hunting catalogue) that also have no problem reaching 90m.
I have a set of the fmj Match (30.5"), shoot 90m with the sight bar all the way out. 36# Hex 6.6 holding circa 42# at full draw.
they tend to be much harder targets, and they wear carbon arrows a lot more than shooting into foam. As Gtek says, why shoot 21st Century arrows into 14th Century targets? Especially the Italian straw bosses... I had one club mate who retired from our county champs one year after snapping 4 of a brand new set of ACC's!
Personally, I will not shoot my carbon arrows into straw. That way you only have to risk breaking arrows on poorly positioned A frames with legs right behind where you want to shoot...
HH - loving your profile picture on this thread!I have a set of 6 (remaining) X10s I'll shoot into straw if there's no space on the foam bosses at the club, but I refuse to pay to enter a competition shot on straw, even indoors. The potential for injuring yourself on hard straw bosses is high and the cost to arrows is something I'd rather not factor in to my weekend/day shooting.
I also can't help but think they don't last as long, especially the ones with high glue content. The only advantage they have over foam is they're easier to store if you can't leave bosses out.
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I have a set of 6 (remaining) X10s I'll shoot into straw if there's no space on the foam bosses at the club, but I refuse to pay to enter a competition shot on straw, even indoors. The potential for injuring yourself on hard straw bosses is high and the cost to arrows is something I'd rather not factor in to my weekend/day shooting.
I also can't help but think they don't last as long, especially the ones with high glue content. The only advantage they have over foam is they're easier to store if you can't leave bosses out.
well, your arrows are a little bit slower... 150-160fps??Well ... thanks for the reply gents, I must have been doing it wrong all these years ... never having had an arrow damaged or the pile glue melt from all that generated heat
150 -160 ... I wish:goodvibeswell, your arrows are a little bit slower... 150-160fps??
If you think the best option is wearing carbon off the arrows, breaking arrows or hitting the frame then I think you're pottyWhat foam bosses do you all use.
Layered?
Pro Boss?
Danage?
Eleven?
All have their pros and cons.
Ones with centers are not appropriate if putting more than one face on a boss.
Layered tend to break up and leave foam laying about - hardly green .
Danage are expensive and useless in the wet.
Sometimes good old straw is the best option
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HH - loving your profile picture on this thread!
What holds danage foam if not a frame?If you think the best option is wearing carbon off the arrows, breaking arrows or hitting the frame then I think you're potty
'A frame', not just 'a frame'... like H Frames. Straw bosses are usually put up on 'A frames' , which if poorly designed can put the legs directly behind the higher scoring zones, which in turn can lead to arrow damages. I have broken arrows this way. H frames, which most foam bosses go on, have the legs out at the side, and if you're missing that badly, I have less sympathy.The question holds, what foam do you use?
As for being called potty - a bit rude.
Shot ACE's, ACC's and Carbon Ones.
Never had one break in straw, indoors or out.
And yes - 200 fps+
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What holds danage foam if not a frame?
Magic floating foam