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    Score tracking application

    Hi all,

    I've been slowly developing a slightly different kind of scoring application which focuses on plotting and tracking practice scores.

    My practice shoots can be any number of arrows over any kind of distance at any of the FITA target sizes, all depending on time available, location etc. In the evenings I might be shooting 50 arrows at a 40cm target over 13yds, while weekends might see me shooting a full Albion or plinking away at an 80cm face at 50m etc. I wanted to plot every one of my shots and analyse my progress (or lack thereof) over time.

    So I made this web-based application (with a standalone mobile aspect) to enable just that. Here's a quick video of the mobile plotter which shows how I log my shots during a session on my iPhone:

    http://eljetico.co.uk/videos/XRingMo...sicScoring.mov

    The plotter operates offline so no connection is required until I want to upload my shoots to the main web app for viewing, comparison and analysis. Here is an overview of recent shoots:



    I can go into the individual shoot and check out shot distribution, accuracy, precision for each End and for an individual arrow etc:



    Similarly I can view my progress over time for a specific target size and range:



    The small red triangles at the top of the graphs denote 'Milestones' - points on the timeline where I have made a change to bow setup, tuning, form etc worthy of a note.


    I want to make this public soon but I have a little work to do first. Notably, the mobile plotter is formatted for iPhone at the moment but being an HTML5 page, I intend to make it screen-size responsive so suitable for any device with a browser. Also, I'm adding more comparison tools, visuals etc in an effort to make it more useful.

    Of course, concentrating solely on scores isn't necessarily the best way to improve your archery but using this as a method of tracking (like you would in jogging, cycling, weight loss, beer consumption etc) has been of immense benefit to me over the past few months.

    Anyway, I wanted to put this out for a bit of feedback/validation - thoughts/suggestions/questions are welcome - I'll keep posting with updates...

    Cheers
    Tim
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    Zooming in further would be usefull as I shoot compound and so would want more detail around the gold

    Otherwise good work, would also be good if it worked correctly on an iPad not just phone as in practice I may take the pad with me

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    Looks pretty good. Will be interested to watch it develop.

    At the moment I don't have any form of smart phone (iPhone, Android etc). At some point I may go that route. If so I will maybe see if I can get hold of a copy.

    Will give it some thought about suggestions.


    A while back I wrote something for Palm devices, but with a slightly different goal. It allowed entry by arrow number and I use it to assess rogue arrows, and allow picking arrows that groups best to try and maximize chance of scoring well! It is interesting how many points you can drop if you pick an arrow which does not groups well, particularly when you drop down to shooting 3-arrow ends at 50m and 30m on a FITA. Just one point each end costs you 4 points a dozen or 24 points in the second half of a FITA. This would be enough to take you from mid MB level to GMB with a compound.

    Best of luck with this

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    I like the look of it. I like the idea of being able to view all the stats in a web page, rather than on the phone. is it only going to be for iPhone?

    I have an android app that allows your groups to be tracked by arrow. But it's not anywhere near as comprehensive as this. On the app I have, when you long press on the screen, you get a zoomed box to allow you to accurately place the shot. But it can be time consuming. The cross hairs on your one makes it look easier (and I take it the white circle was just to show where your finger was in the video?)

    I like the idea of being able to view all the stats in a web page, rather than on the phone. Can you view score sheets as well? It might also be useful to show the classification achieved if your shooting a FITA/GNAS round so you could track that on the app as well, rather than have to go and look it up separately.

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    Thanks for the comments!

    Moose: the mobile app allows you to zoom x2, basically 6-ring to center (although no reason why couldn't go tighter)!

    Flying Whale: when I presented this to a couple of more experienced guys, the real benefit for them was in arrow tuning - the application allows you to select your arrows and plot them sequentially on the target. Rogue arrows can then be identified in the 'desktop' view.

    messyhead: yes the white circle was just for the demo video but there are a number of tools to help you place the shot accurately: the zoom function allows closer inspection of the inner rings, the crosshairs provide a method of tracking across the face and there are big numbers top right which identify the ring you are currently 'hovering' over.

    As it stands, the application allows you to email iArcher scoresheets in and view them under the 'Competitions' tab - I'm still working on this and hope to enable the same kind of stats for competitions but for now I'm keeping it simple and disconnecting it from GNAS/FITA rounds etc.

    Thanks again, useful stuff!

    T

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    Quote Originally Posted by eljetico View Post
    Flying Whale: when I presented this to a couple of more experienced guys, the real benefit for them was in arrow tuning - the application allows you to select your arrows and plot them sequentially on the target. Rogue arrows can then be identified in the 'desktop' view.
    Just for you to think about... Putting the arrows in sequentially to allow you to track number is one way.... however it makes entry at the target a lot slower.

    It means you have to look to work out which arrow is 1 so you can enter it, then go searching for number 2 etc. It is actually easier to plot the arrows all from one side (left to right or top to bottom) and have another way of attaching the number.

    Why is speed an issue? If you are plotting 12 arrows at a time (which is what you really want to do when arrow tuning) and having to look for all numbers... and you are doing it as part of a club night.... the other members can get really frustrated when you take too long plotting the arrows. I speak from experience. Actually for arrow plotting it is best to have the field to yourself, but that is a luxury that can not always be had.

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