Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast
Results 1 to 15 of 27
Discuss Which bowyer for a new yew longbow/warbow? at the English Longbow within Archery Interchange UK Forums; I'm ready to make the leap from laminate to a yew longbow /warbow (120-130lb) but ...
  1. #1
    In the White
    Join Date
    Dec 2010
    Posts
    10
    Reviews
    Read 0 Reviews
    Tournaments Joined
    0
    Tournaments Won
    0
    Downloads
    0
    Uploads
    0
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts

    Which bowyer for a new yew longbow/warbow?

    I'm ready to make the leap from laminate to a yew longbow/warbow (120-130lb) but wanted to guage opinons on who to buy from.

    I'm leaning towards Steve Stratton, based on his reputation for heavyweight yew bows, but also simply because he has a website which details his products.

    I know there are other good bowyers out there, Chris Boyton and Ron Palmer, for example, but neither have a website (that I've found anyway), so it's harder to consider these really. In fact, Stratton is the only bowmaker of heavy yew bows I can find website for. Are there any others?

    Also, is American yew as worth considering over say Italian yew? I suppose, ideally, I want a bow that comes as close to a medieval bow as possible, so yew from the Alps or Pyreness is historicallt correct, but also a bit more expensive. I assume performance and longevity will be similar between American and European yew, for the bow weight I want anyway?

    PS. apologies if this subject has come up before but I didn't want to look back over pages and pages of posts.

    Thanks






  2. Advertisements like those above are essential to keep AIUK running. If you'd like to remove the Google and Ebay adverts and help us meet our running costs, please consider subscribing for only 1.50 per month. Thank you!
     

  3. #2
    In the Blue
    Join Date
    Nov 2008
    Posts
    159
    Reviews
    Read 0 Reviews
    Tournaments Joined
    0
    Tournaments Won
    0
    Downloads
    0
    Uploads
    0
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts
    Hey if you get stuck I can make you any bow you want. I'm setting up in business as a bowyer soon and will have my website up and running in the next few weeks. I'm just a PM away.

  4. #3
    In the Blue
    Join Date
    Aug 2008
    Location
    St Bees, Cumbria
    Posts
    222
    Reviews
    Read 0 Reviews
    Tournaments Joined
    0
    Tournaments Won
    0
    Downloads
    62
    Uploads
    0
    Thanks
    10
    Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts
    why not an Italian bowyer? One comes with a great reputation.

  5. #4
    In the Blue LobbyMuncher's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2007
    Location
    Reading, Berks
    Posts
    156
    Reviews
    Read 0 Reviews
    Tournaments Joined
    0
    Tournaments Won
    0
    Downloads
    0
    Uploads
    0
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post
    If you want power and durability, then it has to be a high altitude Italian yew bow. It will cost you considerable more than English or Pacific yew but will be well worth it. AFAIK there are only two dealers in these, Poletti and Steve Stratton, but Fairbow may be worth a try. I'd recommend Steve Stratton - lots of experience, plenty of very happy customers (including me) and he'll keep you informed of progress.
    Beer will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no beer.

  6. #5
    In the Blue
    Join Date
    Aug 2008
    Location
    St Bees, Cumbria
    Posts
    222
    Reviews
    Read 0 Reviews
    Tournaments Joined
    0
    Tournaments Won
    0
    Downloads
    62
    Uploads
    0
    Thanks
    10
    Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts
    Quote Originally Posted by LobbyMuncher View Post
    If you want power and durability, then it has to be a high altitude Italian yew bow. It will cost you considerable more than English or Pacific yew but will be well worth it. AFAIK there are only two dealers in these, Poletti and Steve Stratton, but Fairbow may be worth a try. I'd recommend Steve Stratton - lots of experience, plenty of very happy customers (including me) and he'll keep you informed of progress.
    what about these?

    Custom Bows - Barebow Archery

    another supplier of the Poletti bows. Spoke to them today about one.

  7. #6
    It's an X Yew Selfbow's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2005
    Posts
    1,243
    Reviews
    Read 0 Reviews
    Tournaments Joined
    0
    Tournaments Won
    0
    Downloads
    6
    Uploads
    0
    Thanks
    30
    Thanked 31 Times in 30 Posts
    Quote Originally Posted by LobbyMuncher View Post
    then it has to be a high altitude Italian yew bow.
    Why does it ??????

  8. #7
    In the Blue ian s's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2008
    Location
    Spalding
    Posts
    108
    Reviews
    Read 0 Reviews
    Tournaments Joined
    0
    Tournaments Won
    0
    Downloads
    0
    Uploads
    0
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post
    Oh dear this again

  9. #8
    In the Blue
    Join Date
    Aug 2008
    Location
    St Bees, Cumbria
    Posts
    222
    Reviews
    Read 0 Reviews
    Tournaments Joined
    0
    Tournaments Won
    0
    Downloads
    62
    Uploads
    0
    Thanks
    10
    Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts
    and Varin

    green man longbows price list

    or Carol archery, Richard Head longbows all pushing self Yew.

  10. #9
    In the Blue ian s's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2008
    Location
    Spalding
    Posts
    108
    Reviews
    Read 0 Reviews
    Tournaments Joined
    0
    Tournaments Won
    0
    Downloads
    0
    Uploads
    0
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post
    John Marshall makes superb bows from English yew I don't know often he makes bows for people or for that matter his E-mail address im sure someone's got it, for a real period bow Italian yew is the only reliable one you will find anymore.

  11. #10
    In the Blue LobbyMuncher's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2007
    Location
    Reading, Berks
    Posts
    156
    Reviews
    Read 0 Reviews
    Tournaments Joined
    0
    Tournaments Won
    0
    Downloads
    0
    Uploads
    0
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Yew Selfbow View Post
    Why does it ??????
    If this comes across as condescending, it isn't meant to, but I'll still apologise in advance for any offence which it may cause. Experience. Spend a little time with a lot of folks who have used English, Pacific and (high altitude) Italian yew and look at what they are shooting now, and paying twice as much for. If you're anywhere near Swindon of a saturday, PM me and we'll play, IIRC one of your selfyews at 120# matches my Italian in draw weight. Job done.
    Beer will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no beer.

  12. #11
    In the Blue LobbyMuncher's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2007
    Location
    Reading, Berks
    Posts
    156
    Reviews
    Read 0 Reviews
    Tournaments Joined
    0
    Tournaments Won
    0
    Downloads
    0
    Uploads
    0
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ian s View Post
    John Marshall makes superb bows from English yew I don't know often he makes bows for people or for that matter his E-mail address im sure someone's got it, for a real period bow Italian yew is the only reliable one you will find anymore.
    I can pass a message to John and recommend his bows too.
    Last edited by LobbyMuncher; 28-02-11 at 09:20 PM. Reason: Typo
    Beer will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no beer.

  13. #12
    In the Blue
    Join Date
    Aug 2008
    Location
    St Bees, Cumbria
    Posts
    222
    Reviews
    Read 0 Reviews
    Tournaments Joined
    0
    Tournaments Won
    0
    Downloads
    62
    Uploads
    0
    Thanks
    10
    Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts
    I made a note of bowyers making 'medieval-style' bows in the UK a while ago to add to the above:

    Pip Bickerstaffe
    Steve Stratton
    John Marshall
    Chris Boyton
    Don Adams (not the US one) - but retired now.
    Richard Head
    Michael Eaton

  14. #13
    In the Blue ian s's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2008
    Location
    Spalding
    Posts
    108
    Reviews
    Read 0 Reviews
    Tournaments Joined
    0
    Tournaments Won
    0
    Downloads
    0
    Uploads
    0
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post
    If you want yew then there are only two in that list you need to worry about

  15. #14
    In the White
    Join Date
    Nov 2010
    Posts
    18
    Reviews
    Read 0 Reviews
    Tournaments Joined
    0
    Tournaments Won
    0
    Downloads
    0
    Uploads
    0
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
    I have to agree with Chris and Ian. I've had one of Steve's high altitude Italian self yew warbows for a number of years and it still shoots as sweetly now as when I first recieved it. English and Pacific yew will certainly make a nice bow, but for longevity it does indeed have to be Italian. When I finally accrue the funds to purchase a new one I will be buying it from Steve. I know the experience he has with the wood, I know many satisfied customers, I know what I'll be getting, and even if it costs a little more than one of Celestino's, I'll be happy to pay it. Don't get me wrong, I'd not be disappointed with a Poletti and I'd be more than happy with one of Chris Boytons, but I know how difficult it can be to get Chris to make one and I know a few of Celestino's have been re-tillered by Steve (more down to the archer's personal preference than anything else). So in answer to the original question, any of those three will make you a beautiful bow that will do everything you will want from it. It all depends if you're prepared to pay a little more for the right wood as not many bowyers have access to it, but as I said, I'll be seeing Steve for mine.

  16. #15
    In the Blue
    Join Date
    Nov 2008
    Posts
    159
    Reviews
    Read 0 Reviews
    Tournaments Joined
    0
    Tournaments Won
    0
    Downloads
    0
    Uploads
    0
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts
    Seriously all this stuff about it has to be high altitude Italian yew, English yew isn't as good etc etc ... really is a load of tosh. As I have said in other posts a certain piece of wood has certain properties. The woods properties determine the bow you can make out of it. If you determine the particular piece of woods properties and design the bow appropriately then English , Italian, Pacific will all shoot within a few fps of each other and last the same amount of time. Take an 'average' Italian yew stave and an 'average' English yew satve - the Italian will likely be denser when you measure the SG (specific gravity) althought this is far from a given. This doesn't mean it will make a better bow. If you made a bow out of each stave to exactly the same dimensions the denser wood would take less set - thus having greater string tension at brace. So if no more though was given to the outcome the Italian would look like it's made the best bow. However for the less dense wood to perform as well it simply needs to be made a shade wider and hey presto the bows would show the same string follow. If you then measure the actual physical weight of the bows you would find that they also weight the same. The ratio of width to thickness is the determining factor of a bows performance - NOT the wood it is made from.
    I am setting up as a bowyer and will have my website up and running soon. I will be explaining fully why a lot of these myths regarding woods are out there and why they are myths.


Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast

Similar Threads

  1. Using a riser on a warbow/longbow
    By rtjstevens in forum Bow Building
    Replies: 8
    Last Post: 23-08-10, 11:55 AM
  2. [WARBOW] How to use a stringer on a warbow/longbow
    By djthompson in forum Warbow
    Replies: 4
    Last Post: 11-12-09, 12:43 PM

Bookmarks

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •