Interesting, almost as if you are avoiding thinking in words... without having to deliberately get to that stage??.
I would deliberately avoid having a conversation with myself or any thought process that required any attention, although it often happens in practice as I'm sure it must with most archers. Even low levels of pain could be ignored.Interesting, almost as if you are avoiding thinking in words... without having to deliberately get to that stage??.
I think Geoff might be referring to the first few shots. I brake the compound learning process down into three stages:Suprise feels very wrong to me.It is a loss of control you can't be certain that the pin will be in the middle when the release happens especially on a windy day outdoors .
"Surprise break" is a technique from pistol shooting, along with "area aim". The rationale is it is impossible to hold still on a perfect sight picture centred on the bull. Waiting for that before consciously breaking the trigger ("now!") leads to "snatching" with poor results, i.e you pull the pistol off aim during the trigger break.Suprise feels very wrong to me.It is a loss of control you can't be certain that the pin will be in the middle when the release happens especially on a windy day outdoors .
I take steps to deal with the 'jump' we only do beginners compound in doors, (Controlled environment the arrow will be contained in the building,) We shoot the back stop to show the archer that if he misses the boss nothing drastic or dangerous will happen. The club compound is slow with a soft cam and a wrist release is used because most people have shot a rifle of some sort so a finger trigger is more familiar and you can't let go of the wrist release . I find the usual reaction is wow and reach for another arrowThis aspect of the execution is really fascinating. It is so easy to use one word and get three different archers getting three different messages from it.
Surprise!
No surprise to any compound archer, when a brand new archer tries a compound and jumps at the release! It is almost bound to happen; what can prepare anyone for such a shock?
There is an interesting difference between Jerry's surprise which he says is out of control; and my thinking, that the surprise is exactly what I want, so I am in control. Well,...... I am in control when I let the surprise take place as I should. Sometimes, I try to speed it along a little and think about getting the shot to go. It does go........ but not the way I had planned. I wasn't supposed to try to get the shot to go.
Yes, indeed! the smile says it all. Sometimes that is worth capturing and trying to keep that excitement over the years in shooting. Sometimes there is less surprise because there was some anticipation. Can be really damaging.I find the usual reaction is wow and reach for another arrow
'Now' does not always lead to snatching not if you are using a wrist release all you have to do is click the mouse button."Surprise break" is a technique from pistol shooting, along with "area aim". The rationale is it is impossible to hold still on a perfect sight picture centred on the bull. Waiting for that before consciously breaking the trigger ("now!") leads to "snatching" with poor results, i.e you pull the pistol off aim during the trigger break.
So the idea is you get the sights lined up in the area of the target (this area might for novices be anywhere on the paper, for more experienced shooters it will be smaller). When within the area you take up the first stage weight. As the sight picture moves towards the bull you increase the pressure on the trigger, as it passes the bull you gently reduce the pressure. The aim will wobble around the middle and at some point the gun will fire as a "surprise". Improvement with practice centres around reducing the size of the "aim area" rather than expecting a perfect sight picture timed to coincide with a perfect break.
As per your sig'Now' does not always lead to snatching not if you are using a wrist release all you have to do is click the mouse button.
If an archer looses off holding weight they deserve every thing they get, creeping poor alignment bad aim and so on, back tension is the key. I hold about 34 lb at anchor. That lines things up.The low holding weights can lead to quite large movements that the archer my not notice in the rush to get the shot away.
I agree up to a point. But what if they have had no proper lessons in compound shooting? They won't necessarily be aware that their lessons were less than ideal.If an archer looses off holding weight they deserve every thing they get,
With a hand held release yes there is the chance of 'motion leakage' to other fingers which could cause errors with a wrist release minor movement of the non trigger fingers has no effect as there are only two areas of contact , the trigger and the wrist strap. Even if you were to try to rush the trigger you cannot it because the release moves back on loose too fastAs per your sig
It often does in pistol shooting which was the context of the post (why "surprise" isn't a bad thing). I don't have any experience to speak from in compound archery (I've shot a total of two arrows from a compound) but I would have thought if the archer activates the trigger with any kind of urgency there's a risk of more convulsive motion: more muscles in the hand and forearm being activated, leading to risk of moving off target. I shoot springer air rifles and any change in muscle tension just before or during the shot can change the point of impact, due to the rifle reacting differently during the motion of the piston.