I definitely touched a few nerves.Kernowlad, I loved your post on fb regarding AGB. Was tempted to pile in but I made a resolution to be nice on the interweb a couple of years ago so i stuck to a like.
Matt, Without going into too many details, could you just give me a short summary ofI definitely touched a few nerves.
The borderline obsessive AGB fan club really can't see the wood from the trees; dozens of similar comments yet they won't have any of it. I know I shouldn't mention politics but it reminds me of the ultra hard right loonies who simply will not accept that maybe the current government isn't really interested in it's voter base...!
What is it they can't see?The borderline obsessive AGB fan club really can't see the wood from the trees;
That fairly major reform is needed and that an awful lot are leaving it. The rather snotty message they sent out was the final nail for many.Matt, Without going into too many details, could you just give me a short summary of What is it they can't see?
Yes, and "Elite" being those in one small sector of archery as a whole.That fairly major reform is needed and that an awful lot are leaving it. The rather snotty message they sent out was the final nail for many.
They support elite archers; by taking money from the majority of grass roots archers.
Stuff that’s been discussed on here many times before.
I thought the Elite grant paid for most of the Elite funding and the contribution from AGB membership is 42p per archer. I agree there are things AGB need to get on board with but we need to make sure our own facts are correct. But yes there has got to be big changes ahead... hopefullyThey support elite archers; by taking money from the majority of grass roots archers.
It may be a small sum from each member but it adds up to a large sum which goes to one specific section of archery as a whole... the money-go-round which is Olympic archery which IMO is arguably the least appealing... the public don't get exposed to the other disciplines... which is maybe why there's an influx of new members after every olympics who then get bored/disillusioned and fall by the wayside.I thought the Elite grant paid for most of the Elite funding and the contribution from AGB membership is 42p per archer. I agree there are things AGB need to get on board with but we need to make sure our own facts are correct. But yes there has got to be big changes ahead... hopefully
41,446 members * 42p = £17,415.72 a drop in the ocean compared to the 1.3m grant for elite program.It may be a small sum from each member but it adds up to a large sum which goes to one specific section of archery as a whole...
Del
It is only 42p, half the amount from last year, but you could also argue that £17000 could save maybe 3 or 4 clubs from folding, or start new ones, this/next year, every year. I guess you could argue that AGB don't need to leach off 42p per member when they should work within their grant funding limit. Given it has risen from £750000 last year to £1.3m this year I don't see why they still need the 42p/archer.41,446 members * 42p = £17,415.72 a drop in the ocean compared to the 1.3m grant for elite program.
Lots of TV shows spark an interest too. The Hunger Games, Lord of the rings, Brave to name but a few. All bare bow.It may be a small sum from each member but it adds up to a large sum which goes to one specific section of archery as a whole... the money-go-round which is Olympic archery which IMO is arguably the least appealing... the public don's get exposed to the other disciplines... which is maybe why there's an influx of new members after every olympics who then get bored/disillusioned and fall by the wayside.
Del
Yes... So, in that case why don't they spend it to promote other disciplines?41,446 members * 42p = £17,415.72 a drop in the ocean compared to the 1.3m grant for elite program.
Indeed... and sadly they all get herded towards the perceived norm of target archery!Lots of TV shows spark an interest too. The Hunger Games, Lord of the rings, Brave to name but a few. All bare bow.
Lol that sounds about right.Indeed... and sadly they all get herded towards the perceived norm of target archery!
It's like taking aspiring chefs and teaching them how to make cheese sandwiches again and again and again... "that cheese is cut too thick, raise your elbow when you hold the knife" keep practising... and again...and again
Del
and again...
Enough already with the cheese sandwiches!
I used to wind surf. Cost me the price of a board and wet suit. But the coast, all 7000 miles of it, was free. Even the coast guard and RLNI service that drags all those lost souls from impending doom is free. Same as cycling. Loads of free roads that require no insurance as car drivers are always in the wrong. Football, go to any open space, park etc. Compare that to archery grounds that are hard to find and expensive. I'm not sure even free AGB membership would make a huge difference to popularity.My main sport is surfing; the UK is pretty hopeless on the World circuit but it’s incredibly accessible to beginners and so a huge success story.
I have to agree there.The most annoying thing for me is the name. As if it's an all encompassing body which represents the whole of the UK archery community.
I can barely make myself type it and tend to just refer to it as "the misnamed society".