AGB Skill levels

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A16KSB

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Hi All,
Is there or do you think there should be a way to represent the skill levels of archers within AGB?
We would have a title for someone who has just completed their beginners' course, (e.g. cub) at one extreme and something else, Master Bowman for example at the other end, with others in between.
If so what is/would be the criteria, how do we measure/set these levels?
I look forward to any suggestions and or pointers
 

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you mean something like Unclassified, 3rd Class, 2nd Class, 1st Class, Bowman, Master Bowman, Grandmaster Bowman...??
 

A16KSB

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you mean something like Unclassified, 3rd Class, 2nd Class, 1st Class, Bowman, Master Bowman, Grandmaster Bowman...??
Well yes I suppose, I don’t really do target, so not used to them. I guess they are based on scores, probably should look them up
Thanks
 

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yeah, different scores for all the rounds, with the higher ranked ones requiring not only higher scores, but also to be shot at longer distances (and the top two having to be shot at tournaments).

There are also indoor classification rankings of A through to H (I think).
 

A16KSB

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yeah, different scores for all the rounds, with the higher ranked ones requiring not only higher scores, but also to be shot at longer distances (and the top two having to be shot at tournaments).

There are also indoor classification rankings of A through to H (I think).
Thanks.
I guess using scores is probably the best way, as to some degree it also takes in experience. The challenge I have is that not all the archers take part in these shoots, yet have many years of experience, so the indoor scores might be the solution.
 

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yeah, they are more a measure of skill rather than experience, but experience is quite hard to measure. There are people in my club who've been involved in archery a lot longer than I have, but do talk utter nonsense and whom I'd avoid for advice. Likewise, some people might know a lot but can't score a lot.
 

A16KSB

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yeah, they are more a measure of skill rather than experience, but experience is quite hard to measure. There are people in my club who've been involved in archery a lot longer than I have, but do talk utter nonsense and whom I'd avoid for advice. Likewise, some people might know a lot but can't score a lot.
Exactly the position I'm in, but I've now decided to scrap the idea, in fact I was wrong in my thinking in the first place.
I've come to the conclusion that if I'm to coach archers, current experience isn't all that important.
Teaching the correct technique, e.g. proper alignment or bow arm is the same no matter how much experience the archer has. In fact some may say it is easier for the novice to learn as they've not got bad habits to fall back to.
 

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Or to make it even simpler, how about handicap? Independent of gender & bow type. Just 100 for a beginner & 0 for perfection. What could be simpler?
 

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There are other threads that are about how this is done and what is wrong with the existing systems.
Archeryfox is involved in looking into some of the problems with the current schemes and hopefuly will keep us informed of anything leaking from AGB HQ as to how things are heading
 

A16KSB

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There are other threads that are about how this is done and what is wrong with the existing systems.
Archeryfox is involved in looking into some of the problems with the current schemes and hopefuly will keep us informed of anything leaking from AGB HQ as to how things are heading
I look forward to any update
 

English Bowman

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Exactly the position I'm in, but I've now decided to scrap the idea, in fact I was wrong in my thinking in the first place.
I've come to the conclusion that if I'm to coach archers, current experience isn't all that important.
Teaching the correct technique, e.g. proper alignment or bow arm is the same no matter how much experience the archer has. In fact some may say it is easier for the novice to learn as they've not got bad habits to fall back to.
You say if you are to coach archers, can you add a bit of context to your original question?
Are you wondering what experience you need to have in order to be able to coach, or are you looking for a way to judge if you can help someone by giving them coaching?
 

A16KSB

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You say if you are to coach archers, can you add a bit of context to your original question?
Are you wondering what experience you need to have in order to be able to coach, or are you looking for a way to judge if you can help someone by giving them coaching?
My idea, thinking and the question was wrong in the first place, as I explained " Teaching the correct technique, e.g. proper alignment or bow arm is the same no matter how much experience the archer has. In fact some may say it is easier for the novice to learn as they've not got bad habits to fall back to. "
 
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