I would ask Danny Hickman in the UK or John Dremmer USA what they do.......
Yes, initially the longer draw felt fine. It gave me a degree of consistency as I had a mechanical reference point, ie the bracer. It was like a very soft compound wall if I didn't pull too hard. My problem is that as I change anchor from high to under my jaw as a normal recurve anchor, for 90m, I lose that contact. Although coming forward on my anchor initially gave me a sense of a lost anchor point, with my eyes closed I can come to the same draw length 5 out of 6 times for both anchor points.Sounds good.
It is interesting that the draw length can be shortened by half inch and still feel good; when previously it also felt good at half inch longer....So, to clarify, at full draw you are not really increasing the draw length but still pulling so as not to creep; have I got that about right?
Hello Whitehart, yes I have chatted to Danny a couple of times about draw, anchor and shooting form. I know Danny has a single anchor and uses gap shooting a lot. I will ask him next time I see him if he comes to a dead draw length or if he continues to draw very slowly. I may ask Mr Dremmer the same question but it always strikes me as a bit of an imposition to ask people questions directly if I don't know them or not invited to ask questions. Although I think he has a website so I may that follow that up.I would ask Danny Hickman in the UK or John Dremmer USA what they do.......
Ha! Danny is a bit of a anomaly, he does not use back tension as such but has a strange ability to make his shoulder blades touch, this is his "lockout" just like a compound, if you ever watch him shoot he has a completely dead release because he cannot move his shoulder any further once he reaches his anchor.I would ask Danny Hickman in the UK or John Dremmer USA what they do.......
Geoff, it works best if there is no deliberate release, the trick is to keep increasing the pressure on the draw arm but not the fingers, this will lead to the string slipping off the fingers in a surprise release, the most that should be done deliberately is to just relax the string fingers but not consciously open them.Hawkmoon, that is about what I say to the archers that I help.
I feel that "stopping and not stopping" can be misunderstood as they can be very similar when considered in more detail. At full draw there must be some pulling happening even if movement is difficult to see or even feel. The problem I have with the idea of stopping, is the way we can then make a deliberate release. By drawing slowly back further and further, the release can happen more naturally; masked by the drawing sensation.
There should not really be any difference between either style, if you are thinking about the different anchor point, it should not really have any effect on your form or back tension. If you come up to full draw (without a bow) with an anchor point under the chin, it does niot thake much to now move your string hand to the side of your mouth without altering your "T".Hi all.
An interesting topic.
Is back tension not related to keeping the scapula/rhomboid muscle activated, whilst the draw elbow in line with the arrow, rather than pulling further back on the string with the arms? so the action is rotational rather than linear.
It is possible to keep pulling back with the arms but no elbow alignment.
What I didn't appreciate is the difference between BB and recurve or am I reading this wrong?
What works for me is to draw to an initial position, settle into the aim and then start to continue to draw until I reach my full anchor (the string touches my lip) and then release. So I would say that that was back tension through the releaseI want to qualify for GMB barebow next year and I have a plan. It is the same plan as my Compound archery was, to shoot the very best form possible irrespective of score. Now I'm quite happy with the way things are going but I need to be sure my understanding of barebow back tension is correct.
Firstly, it appears that for recurve the back tension through the draw at anchor slowly increases to the point the clicker goes and the release. Now my barebow really suffers if I do this as I have no absolute draw position under back tension to give me the repeatable draw length needed for the accuracy I want. My question is... do I come to a dead stop at my draw position while maintaining back tension or should I continue to draw? My gut feeling is I need to maintain a static anchor and back tension to be absolutely repeatable but any help would be much appreciated