Beiter button lengths

KidCurry

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Just bought a beiter button. I needed it to be 21.5mm so bought the 21.5mm to 27mm version as stated on the box. However the minimum length I can achieve is 23.5mm and max is 26.5mm. This is exactly what is stated on the parer slip enclosed with the button. Has anyone else noticed this?
 

Stretch

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Do you have the shortest pin installed? I think the range shown on the boxes includes the full selection on plunger pins (maybe not the blue?) and maybe also the collars. They all seem to ship with the deep collar these days, they used to ship with a choice of the thin collar or the thick collar.

The long barrel was only really needed for bolt on rests and risers with huge cut overs (PSE Centra etc). The short barrel has always been long enough for all my risers with normal rests.

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KidCurry

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Do you have the shortest pin installed? I think the range shown on the boxes includes the full selection on plunger pins (maybe not the blue?) and maybe also the collars. They all seem to ship with the deep collar these days, they used to ship with a choice of the thin collar or the thick collar.

The long barrel was only really needed for bolt on rests and risers with huge cut overs (PSE Centra etc). The short barrel has always been long enough for all my risers with normal rests.

Stretch
Thanks Stretch. Yeh.... there are two lengths of pin. I use a wrap around rest so went for a slightly longer button. Also means I can shorten the others on my lathe if I ever need to. :) Now to go down the club and check it out.... oh wait :(
 

Geophys2

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On my riser with the Spigarelli wrap around I have to use the short collar, when I used the button for Oly recurve with a Shibuya button I used a mid length collar, (made by shortening a long one). As you can see @KidCurry I still use your fantastic weights, though I did machine more of a radius on the bottom weight to clear the tiller adjustments on the Smartriser.

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Of course you need a spare!

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KidCurry

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I may pop into the workshop and make a spare collar although will only need it if I swap risers. I was not unhappy with the Shibuya DX but saw the Beiter for £71 on a Black Friday sale and thought what the hell! And hopefully the new Brexit deal means I won't be looking at an increase in steel prices this year :)
 

Geophys2

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I may pop into the workshop and make a spare collar although will only need it if I swap risers. I was not unhappy with the Shibuya DX but saw the Beiter for £71 on a Black Friday sale and thought what the hell! And hopefully the new Brexit deal means I won't be looking at an increase in steel prices this year :)
You'll love the beiter, no more hassle trying to find the allen key, easy adjustment between shots if needed. I was going to say that with your engineering skills, it should be child's play for you to make a new and improved custom collar.
 

KidCurry

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What's the push-in button at the other end for? Doesn't seem to serve any purpose. Shibuya just has a grub screw.
 
Just bought a beiter button. I needed it to be 21.5mm so bought the 21.5mm to 27mm version as stated on the box. However the minimum length I can achieve is 23.5mm and max is 26.5mm. This is exactly what is stated on the parer slip enclosed with the button. Has anyone else noticed this?
Had a Beiter button but wanted a second button for indoor fat arrows so I could change buttons rather than change setup so bought a Jet EXE magnetic button. Now sold the Beiter and bought a second Jet. Beautifully progressive "spring", no silly plastic spanner necessary and more consistent results. Don't know why they aren't more popular at reasonable price compared to a Beiter.
 
We found that when turning in a button with a rubber ring sometimes it can differ up to half a turn. We advice to tear out the rubber ring and use a spanner to "lock" the button.
Never had a problem. The rubber ring is such that when tightened properly then adjustment ring is almost touching the rest/riser. It would be just as easy to not tighten the Beiter properly as you are always worried about snapping the "silly plastic spanner" :)
 

Whitehart

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:) but in an item costing as much as they do why do they have a plastic spanner in the first place!
To stop you over tightening the button, archers are notorious for over tightening screws and rounding off heads the benefit of the lockdown a few weeks respite from fixing these types of problems :) - better to damage a £2 spanner than a £95 button.

My own testing has shown that most magnetic buttons even the ones that cost as much as a Beiter are not consistent after a few months, for me there is nothing like a quality spring. The Shibuya button is a great button and great value for money, but all my best scores have been shot with a Beiter and once set can be left alone, the only thing on my bow that goes out of tune is me.
 

Stretch

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They have a plastic spanner (or two) because their primary business in precision moulded plastics. Which handily also doesn’t damage the anodising.

I bought my first (of 3) Beiter button in 1996 and still haven’t snapped the perfectly good plastic spanner. Mind you they were cheaper in ye olde days.

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Geophys2

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Yes I have two Beiter buttons, and have never snapped a spanner in ten years, being plastic prevents over tightening. The button I have in use in my barebow is left permanently in place, I set it up a couple of years ago and have never felt the need to remove it from the bow. Yes the weights stay on as well, a decent size padded riser bag and a good bow case, and all stays safe. The only other button I have inspected and would consider is the AAE.

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Stretch

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Points for pound? Shibuya. Does everything it needs to do. (And comes in Plenty of pretty colours).

Beiter’s are nice if your financials are up to it.

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