Draw arm shoulder proble.

Windy

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Hi all, I have been lurking around this forum for the past few months, making my first post now.
I have this problem of my draw shoulder feeling sudden, short-lived sharp pain whenever Im drawing back the bow and exapnding through the clicker. In the past, I've also experienced my shoulder popping out when im drawing the string back, like as if im relaxing my draw shoulder too much(its not painful, but very annoying. I can just reset my shoulder back in place as i let the string down). Is this a common problem within young archers? Is it serious or do i just need to strengthen my shoulders? Im using 25 inch riser with med limbs at 30 pounds on finger. Draw length is about 28 inches.
 


chuffalump

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Might be worth getting your form checked by a coach. However, I'd recommend talking to a doctor/physiotherapist too. You could be doing something wrong or you could actually have a joint or muscle problem.
 


Timid Toad

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Yup, proper analysis by a coach plus seeing your GP with a referral to a physio. It'll also mean rest and rehab, but do as you're told, possibly some form tweaks, and you'll be shooting bigger and better soon enough. You don't say how old you are: if you are in your teens, 30lbs is still possibly too high, so get some help and see if you can wind your limbs out or lighten the poundage other ways.
 


Timid Toad

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An AIUK friend of mine who is having difficulty posting at the moment for unknown reasons has sugested you may have a biceps tendon issue. They recovered after some months of specific exercise using light weights and bands. Something definitely for a physio to advise on.
 


Windy

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An AIUK friend of mine who is having difficulty posting at the moment for unknown reasons has sugested you may have a biceps tendon issue. They recovered after some months of specific exercise using light weights and bands. Something definitely for a physio to advise on.
Hi, thanks for the reply. Im 16 currently. Been shooting for almost 4 years now.
 


Murray

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Could be a range of musculoskeletal issues including impingement or ligament damage in and around the rotator cuff. If your shoulder is popping out the some very specific muscles need to be strengthened and tightened to try to minimise the disruption.

The excellent advice from TT above re: physio is the best approach, they'll be able to isolate the cause(s) relatively easily. Suggest you drop bow weight down to around 18lb for now until you're able to see someone.
 


Windy

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Hi, thanks for the advice. I'll try to do some shoulder exercises to strengthen the shoulder whenever im not shooting.
 


dvd8n

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I'd recommend going to see a proper sports physio.

I had a similar problem and went to see my gp. He didn't really understand sports injuries and his advice didn't help much at all. After the sports physio visit I felt improvements almost immediately. He gave me a massage and specific exercises to target the specific issue.

You'll probably need to pay but probably only about £30 and I found it money well spent.
 


LionOfNarnia

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Yes, a sports physio!

30 years ago I spent 3 years doing an 'NHS runaround' when I was getting intense hip pains after training/games (American football), I was prodded & poked, x-rayed & blood-tested, generally ran from pillar to post with no diagnosis or treatment. I joined Brighton B-52s in 1991, who had a Sports Physio 'attached' to the club. Took TEN MINUTES to diagnose Tendonitis of the Gluteus Medius & 6 weeks of twice-weekly deep massage & ultrasonic treatment to sort out for good. I played on 'til I was 35.
 


steve

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Is it serious or do i just need to strengthen my shoulders?
As others have said, see a qualified physio. There is really no way to self diagnose and every clunk in your shoulder could be doing more damage. Pain is there for a reason. The days of professional footballers being given a "pain killing injection and sent out to play" are long gone. Those guys are now limping around on wrecked knees or are in wheelchairs. At 16 don't take chances with your future health.
 


Windy

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As others have said, see a qualified physio. There is really no way to self diagnose and every clunk in your shoulder could be doing more damage. Pain is there for a reason. The days of professional footballers being given a "pain killing injection and sent out to play" are long gone. Those guys are now limping around on wrecked knees or are in wheelchairs. At 16 don't take chances with your future health.
Hi steve, thanks for the advise. Ill be sure to take care of myself :)
 


JohnK

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I'm the AIUK friend that TT referred to above.

I had long-head bicep tendinitis: it felt like someone was stabbing a needle into my drawing shoulder from about half way through the draw. Even when I dropped draw weight, the pain persisted.

I cannot overstate how important it is to get proper help with something like this. I had to stop shooting for three months to do very specific low resistance exercises with latex bands and 1 and 2kg weights. Essentially I had to retrain the muscle memory in the shoulder to take the pressure off the tendon. I would never have known that without seeing a great sports physio, and working out in the gym just would have made it worse.

You're young, so your healing rate is going to be great, and you also have many years of shooting ahead of you. Don't make the injury worse now, because you will pay and pay and pay for it later in life.

Best of luck, and good shooting!
 


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