The extras you know you'd get with a Hoyt Prevail over the Origin are:Is the Origin better than the Hoyts?
Or what am i getting for the extra coin with the Hoyts?
I love that it's UK made and I do like it, but I do prefer the look of the Hoyts. both prevail and defiant. What i'm wondering is will i wish I'd got the Hoyt at a later date?
Precisely the gimmick features & big marketing budget story sold to entice gullible archers that I mentioned earlier.The extras you know you'd get with a Hoyt Prevail over the Origin are:
-Proven tournament record.
-Shoot through riser.
The first seems kind of iffy - who knows how those shooters would have done with a different bow?
Shoot through riser is supposed to add a lot of stiffness and we're seeing similar risers from PSE and Prime with Mathews and Elite using cages for the same idea. How much of a difference will that make to you? I have no way of measuring that particular length of string
However, I have the distinct impression that this is yet another case of an inexperienced compounder who won't be happy until he spends the big quid & satisfies himself.Precisely the gimmick features & big marketing budget story sold to entice gullible archers that I mentioned earlier.
Tell that to the amazing scores by Mathews & Elite shooters who have won major tournaments, or the medal winners from the UK Nationals shooting a Mybo Origin, all without a shoot thru riser.
I have owned several Hoyt bows over the years, along with most other brands, so certainly far from a Hoyt disliker. They pay for top Pro & sponsored archers to support their claims & there is no denying their target success . It's just that I have been around long enough to be unimpressed & pay for the big American brand hype & gimmicks unless convinced they are offering an advantage in some way. There are more Hoyt compounds here locally than any other brand due to their loyal brand following & our dealers being distributors .Fml Ozzy, you are a bloody delight mate! Lol do you dislike hoyt that much?
I'm not a Hoyt fan boy, I do like the origin and I love that it's British made, I do like how the hosts look, but also like how the origin looks. I'll be interested to see the new mybo too.
I'm happy to spend as long as I'm satisfied at the end of it regardless or price.
I know the basic difference between the two prevail cams but not alot more.
Shoot through riser isn't important to me really.
Interested to hear about the comparison of the cams, adjust and tunability etc?
Awesome responses guys! Much appreciated.
Jerry, thanks. Why would I keep it for 2315's? (those are an arrow type right?)
I think I'll try out the bows in shop once I know my DL and have some experience shooting the Assassin, and see how each feels and which I prefer.
Kid, I am looking forward to getting it later today! Maybe I will love it
Mormegil, neither reason are strong enough to discount the Origin, so that's still on the table.
AndyW, I'll admit the extra ?500 in my pocket is a good incentive to get the Origin
Btw, as well as the wrist release I got with the assassin, I bought a Tru Ball HBC... so I hear I may be updating you all on how many black eyes I get or teeth I lose.
FYI - I've been happily hating Hoyt since 1989. Others innovate, they drag along at some point later if it proves to be popular. Just about numbers and being sparkly. And somehow they still manage to make a dog every now and then. If I'm being 100%; in fairness you can't fault the ruckus - brilliant kids bow. I remember an article back in the early 90s where a US Olympian was saying he had to actively avoid his own arrows whilst practicing at Olympic distance because of how great the Hoyt shot. Yeah . . . . . right.Fml Ozzy, you are a bloody delight mate! Lol do you dislike hoyt that much?
I'm not a Hoyt fan boy, I do like the origin and I love that it's British made, I do like how the hosts look, but also like how the origin looks. I'll be interested to see the new mybo too.
I'm happy to spend as long as I'm satisfied at the end of it regardless or price.
I know the basic difference between the two prevail cams but not alot more.
Shoot through riser isn't important to me really.
Interested to hear about the comparison of the cams, adjust and tunability etc?
Thanks for that Ozzy!I have owned several Hoyt bows over the years, along with most other brands, so certainly far from a Hoyt disliker. They pay for top Pro & sponsored archers to support their claims & there is no denying their target success . It's just that I have been around long enough to be unimpressed & pay for the big American brand hype & gimmicks unless convinced they are offering an advantage in some way. There are more Hoyt compounds here locally than any other brand due to their loyal brand following & our dealers being distributors .
The big difference between the cams ?
Hoyt have for many years used the same concept "hybrid" cam invented originally by Darton.
The Origin Mybo is a more recent technology, a slaved together "binary" style cam, which was patented by Bowtech & more bow manufacturers seem to be incorporating & have customised as their own now due to ease of time & tweak & fine tune in draw length, stop hardness, letoff, etc etc. All without changing cams & modules, all without a press. Have wondered how long it will be before Hoyt use the idea & call them by their own particular name, as other manufacturers have done.
No one pays or owns me. What more can I say ?
The Hoyt Podium X 40 is the only compound bow I've ever had this issue with in 30 years of shooting compound. Fitting a string stop removed the problem but they are not commercially available due to the 1/4 UNC thread and angle of the mounting point.Honestly, if you're getting string slap from a compound it is for one of two reasons - very strangely shaped arms, or a form problem.
Thanks T101! This is something I've read and noticed with new bows this year vs last as it goes. I'm leaning towards 37-40" bows now, inc the Mathews Halon X Comp and TRX or with the Edge arriving this year I'm keen to see that too. The Hoyts still catch my eye and appearance is something I'm looking. Other brands are growing on me though.Hey Unit, an important factor that no one has mentioned is ATA, for target all other things being equal, generally a longer ATA tends to be better. That's not to say some archers can't shoot as well with a 35" axle bow, of course they can we have all seen it. But as good as the Origin is or isn't, they ARE bringing out a longer ATA target model this year, for a reason ;0)
I'm not saying the Prevail is going to be better than the Origin because of longer ATA, but I doubt its gonna be crap.
I get that appearance seems to be a factor for you, nothing worse than wishing you had bought something else especially when you see one on the line. Depends how much money that is worth to you though I spose.
Have you considered a used Podium X? sposed to be similar to the Prevail and about half the money now