New weights rules for barebow?

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LAC Mark

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WA have announced some new rules for barebow, I don't have a link, but it's something along the line off;
Weights can be used above the grip (as long as it's not able to be used as a sight).
Bows and weights can have damping (added or integral).
Bow weights no longer have to be one piece.
There may be more, but I read it once and decided I wasn't going to change my setup to accommodate any of these.
 

KidCurry

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That's interesting. I shoot with 1.2kg of weights below the grip, ie 2x600g. Interestingly they are split weights and they have never been questioned. I think the bow would respond better with some weight at the top. If anyone has a link to the rule change I would be most grateful.
 

LAC Mark

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The link that I read was posted in the "Barebow Group" on facebook, but it's bound to be on the WA site (you would have thought anyway).
 

KidCurry

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Ahh... found it thanks.
Mathew Reesman
The actual text of the proposed rule change, which appears to have passed.
Notably: "Vibration dampeners are permitted. They may be installed in the riser by the manufacturer, or by attaching aftermarket dampeners directly to the riser or to weight(s). Any combination of weight(s) and vibration dampener(s) must pass through a ring with an inside diameter of 12.2 cm (+/- 0.5mm) without having to flex vibration dampeners to fit through the 12.2 cm ring. A riser manufacturers ́angled stabilizer insert(s) are allowed, but angular brackets or connectors are not permitted. Weight(s) and dampener(s) may be added below and above the riser’s grip, but must not aid the athlete in aiming or ranging in any way."
Justification: "In an effort to reduce repetitive motion injuries, our committees feel that it is important to protect the archers’ and prolong their archery careers."
The rule change will go into effect January 15, 2022.
 

Hawkmoon

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This just confuses me, we were originally allowed to add weights below the grip only, in order to make a top heavy ILF riser shootable without it wanting to tip left or right all the time. Why would you then want to add weight above the grip, when it is just going to mean you need at add more below to keep the riser balanced?
 

Timid Toad

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Try it and see what happens? More than one way to skin a cat.
 

KidCurry

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This just confuses me, we were originally allowed to add weights below the grip only, in order to make a top heavy ILF riser shootable without it wanting to tip left or right all the time. Why would you then want to add weight above the grip, when it is just going to mean you need at add more below to keep the riser balanced?
Well I've moved about 600g of weight from the stab hole to the top stabiliser. I now have 700g in bottom stab mounting. I did think the bow would tilt back. It does not. In fact it stays perfectly vertical. What it does do is make the bow far more balanced to shoot. It also helps with high aim angles and has reduced my negative tiller slightly. I like it a lot :)
 

Michael Burrows

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Well I've moved about 600g of weight from the stab hole to the top stabiliser. I now have 700g in bottom stab mounting. I did think the bow would tilt back. It does not. In fact it stays perfectly vertical. What it does do is make the bow far more balanced to shoot. It also helps with high aim angles and has reduced my negative tiller slightly. I like it a lot :)
I found it interesting in the video that the riser was balanced around the pivot point. Now that you've added and moved the weights around how does your bow now balance in relation to the pivot point
 

Emmadragon

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Ooh, that's interesting. I wasn't able to use my SmartRiser for barebow, due to the integral hydraulic damping, but very reluctant to buy another riser given the cost of it, so if I can use it now, that's great!
 

Geophys2

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Ooh, that's interesting. I wasn't able to use my SmartRiser for barebow, due to the integral hydraulic damping, but very reluctant to buy another riser given the cost of it, so if I can use it now, that's great!
I have used my Smartriser in Barebow for a long time. Vibration dampeners have long been allowed as long as they are part of the original manufacture of the riser and do not include stabilisers ( WA Rule book 3 and AGB Appendix F - 11.4.6.1) " Vibration dampeners fitted as part of the bow are permitted provided that they do not have stabilisers") . I have used mine in a number of WA events in various countries and it has always passed inspection. Indeed Smartriser make a BB version with oil dampening and additional side plates.
 

jshankar

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The link that I read was posted in the "Barebow Group" on facebook, but it's bound to be on the WA site (you would have thought anyway).
Struggled to find this on the WA or AGB sites. The press release of changes/proposals voted on did not mention this item. Write to agb and was told it would be disseminated to the members through the ezines?
 
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