NFAS Styles

MikeD

New member
I've started experimenting with a 5-pin sight and am interested in finding out about joining and shooting NFAS.

Please can someone clarify the shooting style for me.
  • Is a short stabiliser permitted for Compound Limited (like for bowhunter in IFAA)?
  • Can I shoot middle and ring finger below and the index finger off the string. I have an Ultratec and it is too short to shoot three fingers on the string
For setting pins, what are the maximum and minumum distances shot at NFAS competitions or courses?

According to the NFAS site there is only one NFAS club in Scotland. I know that is wrong; so how do I find out what clubs there really are in Scotland?
 


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indy

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the rules for this class for shooting under the NFAS,
there is some good competition in this class up and down the country amongst the ranks of the nfas, hope you enjoy shooting it.

Compound Limited (CL)
In this Class a bow including a compound bow with a fixed up to five pin hunting sight may be used. A peep-sight or kisser button is permitted but not both. The arrow support point shall not be positioned more than 2" (5cm) behind the throat of the hand-grip measured in a direction perpendicular to the bowstring. One anchor point must be maintained throughout the shoot. No additional draw checks can be added to the bow above the manufactures specification any such draw check must not be able to be used as a sighting aid. No release aids or spirit levels of any kind are permitted. The "Mediterranean" loose only is permitted.
("Mediterranean loose" means one finger above and the middle and ring fingers below the nock.)



and below are the rules for the EFAA for limited,a slight change in the style name but basically the same,


BOWHUNTER LIMITED
Compound bow
Five pin sight
One straight stabiliser maximum 12" length
Clicker and leveling device not permitted
One nocking point
Index finger to touch nock
One consistent anchor point
Release aid not permitted


hope this gives you some idea.

indy.:reading:
 


MikeD

New member
the rules for this class for shooting under the NFAS,
there is some good competition in this class up and down the country amongst the ranks of the nfas, hope you enjoy shooting it.

Compound Limited (CL)
In this Class a bow including a compound bow with a fixed up to five pin hunting sight may be used. A peep-sight or kisser button is permitted but not both. The arrow support point shall not be positioned more than 2" (5cm) behind the throat of the hand-grip measured in a direction perpendicular to the bowstring. One anchor point must be maintained throughout the shoot. No additional draw checks can be added to the bow above the manufactures specification any such draw check must not be able to be used as a sighting aid. No release aids or spirit levels of any kind are permitted. The "Mediterranean" loose only is permitted.
("Mediterranean loose" means one finger above and the middle and ring fingers below the nock.)

indy.:reading:
That does not specifically say that a stabiliser is not allowed, so does that mean a stabilser, or balancing weights are allowed? Does the mediterranean loose mean that I have to have three fingers on the string, or is ok to have one finger above, but not in contact with the string and two below that are in contact with the string.

For IFAA my index finger is still in contact with the nock, it is just not in contact with the string...
 


Devon_Archer

New member
yes you can have a stabiliser in NFAS Compound Limited, there is a length limit to the stabiliser in barebow class but not one that i can find in limited

and not many (none that I can remember anyway) actually hold the string with all 3 fingers, they relax the top one
 


MikeD

New member
Thanks :) So I can shoot for both NFAS and IFAA without changing anything.

Now I just need to find NFAS clubs and courses in Scotland. There seems to a lack on information on the NFAS site. I know there is more than one club... At least there is a site, unlike the elusive Northern Field Federation.

Mike
 


Joester

New member
For complete clarification, have a look at the 'shooting styles' section under 'About the NFAS' on the website, it's pretty clear what you can and can't do for all bowstyles.

As for sightmarks, the distances are very, very arbitrary, and all unmarked (or at least I've never been to, or heard of, a marked NFAS round).
You won't normally be required to shoot things over about 60 yards away, but even then you can get home-made targets at up to 100 yards away.
I've shot things as close to about 1.5m away from my feet (of an elevated platform).
 


BorderBows

New member
Thanks :) unlike the elusive Northern Field Federation.

Mike
For reference and nothing else, this is not Border speaking, this is the Reivers, the club...

The NFF is a small group of clubs and members that have started there own association that is not governed by the politics at the top. These clubs are also BLBS, EFAA, NFAS, etc run. The NFF allows all these groups to shoot under the same club with none of the conflicting, well, you not a member of NFAS so you can shoot at MY EFAA shoot this week!
The clubs are self run, shoot there own shoots under there own rules. If the archers dont like it, then the dont turn up... The rule is that the association is there to provide generic field archery insurance and conform to the rules of the insurance and not the society, this includes child protection rules and health and saftey and thats that...

The reason for this is to allow everyone, from all clubs/associations to shoot together with out excluding at society level, and only at local level. For example we have one club that is not allowed Crossbows, as its a landowner issue, so its up to that club to organise itself that way, and not for the association to apply pressure to include crossbows. (as a rough example)

This small band of clubs have done this as there are not as many clubs with active members to hold healthy turnouts under one association banner. Very fragmanted.

Not sure if the NFF need high levels of publicity as its a encompassing feature that lives along side the other assocaitions rather than instead of, designesd to be local level and not national.
We seem to have to shout quality and not quantity, and thats not a story we opt for :eek:ptimist:

Clubs in the NFF
Ours, The Reivers (The borders)
Dalmore, Probably your nearest (Dunfermline)
Inverness Archery Club (Inverness)
Heinford (Carluke)
Loudon (Darvel)
Keilder (Hexham)
Stewatry (Lake District Way)
Auld Kirk Bowmen (Castle Douglas)
Palacerigg (there are two clubs with very similar names, of which one is NFF) (Cumbernauld)
Foxhill (Inverness)
A club with no name that we know of:wide-eyed(Alnwick)

This might give you some where to start looking at some Field Clubs
 


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Celtic Dragon

New member
Forgive me if there are errors I'm a newbie to field and NFAS but I shoot CL class so can tell you what kit I use.

A longrod shorter than your draw length. (mines a 16" rod on a 29" draw).

Sorry, but I can't help you on the draw method, I use 1 above and 2 below being an ex recurve archer, so to me its natural (plus my bow is a 41" A-A).

Yes in that config it falls foul EFAA rules, so I'd have to change the weight on the front of the shorter rod (my Rod is a 4" extender and a 12" longrod inc weights)


As for sights, most of my club run 20, 30, 40, 50 and 60 yrd pins and work out the rest with lots of range time. CL don't allow bubbles, and 80 yards is usually the bottom of the ring.
 


MikeD

New member
Not sure if the NFF need high levels of publicity as its a encompassing feature that lives along side the other assocaitions rather than instead of, designesd to be local level and not national.
We seem to have to shout quality and not quantity, and thats not a story we opt for :eek:ptimist:

Clubs in the NFF
Ours, The Reivers (The borders)
Dalmore, Probably your nearest (Dunfermline)
Inverness Archery Club (Inverness)
Heinford (Carluke)
Loudon (Darvel)
Keilder (Hexham)
Stewatry (Lake District Way)
Auld Kirk Bowmen (Castle Douglas)
Palacerigg (there are two clubs with very similar names, of which one is NFF) (Cumbernauld)
Foxhill (Inverness)
A club with no name that we know of:wide-eyed(Alnwick)

This might give you some where to start looking at some Field Clubs

Thanks, that's very helpful indeed. I'll be joining Dalmore, it's good to know about the other clubs. I wonder if a simple one page website with contact information would not go amiss. It is really difficult to find information about NFAS style archery in Scotland (or Northern Britain). There is only only NFAS club in Scotland listed on the NFAS site (Foxhill).
 


MikeD

New member
Forgive me if there are errors I'm a newbie to field and NFAS but I shoot CL class so can tell you what kit I use.

A longrod shorter than your draw length. (mines a 16" rod on a 29" draw).

Sorry, but I can't help you on the draw method, I use 1 above and 2 below being an ex recurve archer, so to me its natural (plus my bow is a 41" A-A).

Yes in that config it falls foul EFAA rules, so I'd have to change the weight on the front of the shorter rod (my Rod is a 4" extender and a 12" longrod inc weights)


As for sights, most of my club run 20, 30, 40, 50 and 60 yrd pins and work out the rest with lots of range time. CL don't allow bubbles, and 80 yards is usually the bottom of the ring.
I've gone for an 11.5" doinker and it seems to balance my Ultratec well, I may add one extra 1/2" weight, but I suspect it isn't necessary. I've found that I can shoot two fingers below with IFAA if I make sure that my index finger feathers against the nock. So it is almost like a recurve style except you take off the top finger after drawing, to eliminate finger pinch.

Anyway I'll hopefully get the rest of the pins set tonight, having done 80 yards on the guard and 20 and 30 yards last night.
 


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indy

Guest
as regards to using a stabilizer in the C/L class under nfas rules, i am told from a reliable scource that it will not exceed the arrow length, strange really when you think that not everyone is the same arrow length,however thats what i was told,until i hear differently i guess that must be the rule.
 


BorderBows

New member
Thanks, that's very helpful indeed. I'll be joining Dalmore, it's good to know about the other clubs. I wonder if a simple one page website with contact information would not go amiss. It is really difficult to find information about NFAS style archery in Scotland (or Northern Britain). There is only only NFAS club in Scotland listed on the NFAS site (Foxhill).
Agreed. Some of these clubs are just a few friends with a bit of land, but with some creative layout, most are good fun. Some hold open shoots. These clubs hold shoots under certain associations, and also hold the odd open shoot, held under the NFF insurance.

Several of Dalmore Archers come to our monthly shoot, open to Border owners and there friends (by invite by a Border Reiver member) or at an open shoot we hold once a month. We are in a odd position in that we shouldn't side upto an association, so we have our own scoring system, with our own categories.
Dalmore will get you on the right track, as to where field archery is taking place in Scotland.
 


MikeD

New member
let us know how you get on, Mike:beer:
Well I'm having fun so far :). This evening I went to the Forest Spirit course (SFAA) and got the pins set as best as I can. I then shot around 14 targets and put in close to an A class score. I need to get the pins slightly better and work on my finger tab, but so far so good. And it's so much less bother than adjusting a sight for every peg.
 


Andrew Knott

New member
I can 100% confirm that there is no length restriction on stabiliser length for NFAS compound limited. I've been crawling over the existing rules to find ways to clarify any ambiguities as part of the work of the NFAS rules committee and there is nothing about stabiliser length for C/L. But there is for the equiv EFEA class.
 


Berny

Member
I know this is an old post, but it's worth re-presenting the information for all those who missed it first time or have never seen it.

The NFF does now have a website
& you will see there are a number of shoots over the coming weeks including tomorrow, 30 Oct 2011.

For reference and nothing else, this is not Border speaking, this is the Reivers, the club...

The NFF is a small group of clubs and members that have started there own association that is not governed by the politics at the top. These clubs are also BLBS, EFAA, NFAS, etc run. The NFF allows all these groups to shoot under the same club with none of the conflicting, well, you not a member of NFAS so you can shoot at MY EFAA shoot this week!
The clubs are self run, shoot there own shoots under there own rules. If the archers dont like it, then the dont turn up... The rule is that the association is there to provide generic field archery insurance and conform to the rules of the insurance and not the society, this includes child protection rules and health and saftey and thats that...

The reason for this is to allow everyone, from all clubs/associations to shoot together with out excluding at society level, and only at local level. For example we have one club that is not allowed Crossbows, as its a landowner issue, so its up to that club to organise itself that way, and not for the association to apply pressure to include crossbows. (as a rough example)

This small band of clubs have done this as there are not as many clubs with active members to hold healthy turnouts under one association banner. Very fragmanted.

Not sure if the NFF need high levels of publicity as its a encompassing feature that lives along side the other assocaitions rather than instead of, designesd to be local level and not national.
We seem to have to shout quality and not quantity, and thats not a story we opt for :eek:ptimist:

Clubs in the NFF
Ours, The Reivers (The borders)
Dalmore, Probably your nearest (Dunfermline)
Inverness Archery Club (Inverness)
Heinford (Carluke)
Loudon (Darvel)
Keilder (Hexham)
Stewatry (Lake District Way)
Auld Kirk Bowmen (Castle Douglas)
Palacerigg (there are two clubs with very similar names, of which one is NFF) (Cumbernauld)
Foxhill (Inverness)
A club with no name that we know of:wide-eyed(Alnwick)

This might give you some where to start looking at some Field Clubs
 


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