How long a novice?

[MikeD]

I can't find anything helpful on the GNAS site. How long do you remain a novice for competitions? Is it just 'till you get two scores to get a real classification, or your first year as a GNAS member, or even longer???

Cheers

Mike

 

[joetapley]

There is no 'novice' class in GNAS. As soon as your a member you can enter competitions etc. that's down to you.

For handicap shoots you do need a handicap so you need three qualifying scores. Classification is basically irrelevant though some tournaments do award prizes based on class e.g. best 2nd class score or something similar.

 

[MikeD]

Ahhh, I think.

The first competition I entered was the SAA Indoor Junior and Novice Portsmouth 2 weeks ago. They defined Novice as someone who had joined GNAS after September 2004. However Sunday's shoot did not have a definition in the application of 'novice', but that was the category I was in.

Will I get a classification from 2 Portsmouths and a Fita 18, or does it have to be three of the same round?

 

[Meddler]

Classification / handicap is worked out on any three rounds (indoor for indoor classification / outdoor for outdoor classification).

You could shoot Portsmouth / Worcester / FITA 18 and you'll get a classification ( and coincidentally a handicap....)
Iain.

 

[MikeD]

Excellent, I'll get a classification after Loreburn on Sunday then. I take the scores have to be in competition. I've handed in quite a few at the club but havn't got a classification or handicap yet.

 

[tel]

Classification / handicap is worked out on any three rounds (indoor for indoor classification / outdoor for outdoor classification).

You could shoot Portsmouth / Worcester / FITA 18 and you'll get a classification ( and coincidentally a handicap....)
Iain.

...assuming you shoot the required score

 

[tel]

Excellent, I'll get a classification after Loreburn on Sunday then. I take the scores have to be in competition. I've handed in quite a few at the club but havn't got a classification or handicap yet.

See above! Only kidding MikeD
Scores at Club Target days also count - check with your records officer, you may well already have a classification/handicap!


PS sorry about the double posting by the way - can't seem to get two quotes in one post !

 

[Shirt]

Excellent, I'll get a classification after Loreburn on Sunday then. I take the scores have to be in competition. I've handed in quite a few at the club but havn't got a classification or handicap yet.

You shooting morning or afternoon? I'm in the afternoon - look for the guy with the stars and stripes bow.

 

[pelican]

Hi MikeD, didn't realise any AIUK members I didn't know were at Lasswade, we were there too. Cal and I are shooting pm at Loreburn, I'll be wearing the white chestguard with purple trim(my lucky one).

Hope to see you then. Good shooting!

 

[Murray]

Hi!

"Novice" is classed as being within the first year of your GNAS membership. This is a bit of an anomaly if you've been shooting for many years (as I did) prior to joining GNAS!

Have fun at Loreburn!

Classification/handicaps - if your club doesn't have a records officer, chances are no-one is calculating the handicaps/classifications for you. Ask for a loan of the GNAS book from your club secretary (all secretaries get a copy as far as I know ), and then you can work them out for yourself (If you understand excel macros, I could send you my spreadsheet which does some of the grunt work for you)

 

[MikeD]

Thanks Murray, I'll check with our records officer tonight. So if I now have an indoor classification should I enter the Lasswade shoot in January with that classification. But when it comes to outdoors I shoot as novice until I have three scores with the records officer?

Shirt, I'm shooting in the afternoon at Loreburn. I'll be wearing green trousers and a white polo shirt :duh: (and have a red Winnact riser and W & W limbs, Black chest guard).

Pelican, is that wee Calum? If so I shot in his group at Montrose, and saw you at the try out day at Dalmore a few weeks ago.

 

[Little Miss Purple]

If you still have your scores you can check your handicap / classification at

www.aire-valley-archers.co.uk

You will find classifications for indoor and outdoor.

 

[Murray]

So if I now have an indoor classification should I enter the Lasswade shoot in January with that classification.

Well, you're still a novice regardless of classification so it's up to you Frankly, I'd put in both (Novice/D for example) just to give Tina a headache

The confusion I think you're experiencing is that Novice is NOT a classification. Indoor classifications are A-H, non-classified (n/c) and un-classified (u/c). (u/c means not having shot 3 scores at the lowest class or above, n/c means having had a classification, then lost it by not having shot 3 scores at the lowest class or above).

"Novice" isn't mentioned anywhere in the GNAS rulebook or administrative procedures.

But when it comes to outdoors I shoot as novice until I have three scores with the records officer?

As above. Hope that helps??

 

[MikeD]

Thanks Murray, all is clear now.

While I have your attention... Do you usually get an entry form for the Aberdeen Combined Fita to put on the SAA site?

 

[Murray]

Ermm... yep, usually.